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How can ND just reload at RB but keep missing WR's?

Author: koreasam (524 Posts - Joined: Mar 28, 2017)

Posted at 5:29 pm on May 7, 2025
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Thread Level: 2

RBs see the linemen commits... WRs look more at the QBs.

Author: Curly1918 (16166 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:56 am on May 9, 2025
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If we start throwing the ball more effectively, we will become more attractive to WRs.

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Re: How can ND just reload at RB but keep missing WR's?

Author: IrishChristopher (732 Posts - Joined: Sep 4, 2016)

Posted at 9:32 am on May 9, 2025
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I think a lot of it has to do with actually developing the talent & that's the responsibility of the WR coach.

Let's be honest, Chansi Stuckey had no business being our WR coach. He had all of ONE year experience before joining our staff. The jury is still out on our current WR coach Mike Brown & I won't even get into former WR coach Del Alexander.

We've recruited decently at the WR position in recent years with Greathouse, Flores, Cam Williams & Micah Gilbert. Tobias Merriweather seemed like a future stud at WR but that was a hit & miss as he just transferred from Cal after producing next to nothing in 2024.

Greathouse is poised to have a breakout year after his exceptional performances in the playoffs. I was disappointed we didn't see more of Gilbert or Cam Williams last season especially Williams as he was a borderline 5* recruit. I think Burress & Scrap Richardson have a chance to see some playing time (even if it's just garbage time) this upcoming season.


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Since Fuller it seems 60% of the passes go towards the TE

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 4:35 pm on May 8, 2025
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WRs see that and the lack of down field passing and think twice

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Claypool had a nice 2019 season

Author: ndunabomber (6417 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:36 am on May 9, 2025
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That was the last season we had a true WR1.

I think Equanimeous St. Brown could have had a very fine 2017 and an even better 2018, had Ian Book been the starter from the beginning of that season. He already had a very good season in 2016 (came close to a 1000 season) with Kizer as his QB, but nearly got his neck broken several times when trying to catch those errant passes from Brandon Wimbush in 2017.


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Development

Author: IdahoIrish (299 Posts - Joined: Oct 31, 2021)

Posted at 2:31 pm on May 8, 2025
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Compare this to DBs and RBs. If you develop them, others will come. We haven't. Period.

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WR is a glam position, not many top WR's want to spend their college time blocking

Author: Clem (1877 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 6:08 am on May 8, 2025
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for RB's and going to class full time. At ND, they HAVE to do both.

Going to ND is choosing hard and prima donnas don't like hard.


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This is very true but to be totally honest our offense and QBs have not given talented

Author: ndphysics (3899 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 10:00 am on May 8, 2025
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And interested WR a reason to come to ND if they have NFL aspirations

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Yes. hopefully that changes this year…some.

Author: BaronVonZemo (58861 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:51 am on May 9, 2025
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Gotya be run first with this RB room, but we need a better assing game than Riley Leonard (no offense to that great college QB)

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The real reason^^^^^^

Author: WoodstockIrish (14631 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:21 am on May 8, 2025
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I guess somehow the RBs are all rocket scientists.

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Hopefully we can add Finley, Warren, Robinson to Frazier and Faison.

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)

Posted at 4:39 pm on May 8, 2025
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Dynamic playmakers like Koren Brown have just been offered as well as NFL legacy Devin Fitzgerald...Maybe we are too quick to take legacies and siblings especially compared to other "Elite" schools.

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If u go all in with 4 and 5 stars and lose out u scramble. We need to get to

Author: ndphysics (3899 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 5:49 pm on May 8, 2025
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The point the best guys want to come to ND and we pick and choose. Winning and a strong passing game will make that happen. Just like RB now

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One good year with a QB that will return the next year will go a long way to fixing this

Author: ndphysics (3899 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 10:27 am on May 8, 2025
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Exactly

Author: WoodstockIrish (14631 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:30 pm on May 8, 2025
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We haven’t had an NFL caliber QB in….well, it’s been a long, long time

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That literally sums up probably 95% of WR's not intersted

Author: BTAYLOR21 (2927 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:14 am on May 8, 2025
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Let's hope the world keeps turning in the right direction

Ross Browner should have won the heisman
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We seem to hit positions in cycles. RB, CB and LB are hot right now. OL is generally always pretty

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 10:13 pm on May 7, 2025
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good.

TE is on the downtrend and WR is as you mentioned. IMO, it feels like a lot of it follows the level of success on the field. RB for instance is a far cry from converting CJ Prosise to RB. Granted he had a decently long NFL career but was kind of odd in college. We also fumbled the years of Cierre Wood to Greg Bryant. A lot of talent was wasted in those times but the stable was more of a two man stable then. We've had at least three sold backs for a number years now.

Really, we've had a strong RB coach since (can't remember his name) went to OSU. He was the turning point for the RB room. Denson was good. Lance was lackluster, McCullough. Each seemed to get slightly better but in a different way. All were good.


Thread Level: 3

Tony Alford was good

Author: ndunabomber (6417 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:35 pm on May 7, 2025
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Brian Kelly, though, moved him to coach WR's for a couple of years before finally letting him go back to coaching RB's. He was most insistent on keeping his crony, Tim Hinton, as the RB coach for those years.

Alford's at Michigan now, as the RB coach.


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He was. The only one I could say didn't seem to do much was Lance Taylor. He was also here only a

Author: oldirish (9324 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 2:36 pm on May 9, 2025
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short time. It seemed more like a hype pick than anything else and he hasn't done anything really since.

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Running back production took off with Autry

Author: holybull101 (10459 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:43 pm on May 8, 2025
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I don't think Alford was a good coach

Thread Level: 2

Read more, Post less.

Author: murph92675 (1552 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:31 pm on May 7, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

Or just go away.

Author: faircatchcorby (9748 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 9:56 am on May 8, 2025
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