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How are people feeling about the season? Seems like cautious optimism mixed with dread.

Author: LanceManion (8183 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 12:34 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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I think we can lose one game up front and still make the playoffs, a la last year, especially since our schedule is front-loaded and we made it to the championship game last year.

I might even say the one-game rule applies to a loss later in the season, but at this point, everything after SC is an expected win, so unless there is a mitigating circumstance (e.g., playing in a rain storm) or one of the back end teams is a surprise, a later loss significantly reduces our chances.

I think there's slightly better than 50% chance that we run the table this year; again, the front-loaded schedule will make the first half of the season harder to manage. Putting the bye right after Miami will help, but we've got one of the hardest early schedules going, and AR, Boise State, and NC State are a tough lead up to SC.

I'd possibly rate odds of success higher BUT new DC AND the QB situation weigh heavily on chances of success.

If the DC situation is a non-issue, then I'd increase the odds to between 65% and 70%.

Prediction: 11-1 with a CFP berth.


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I really think this is the best team we have had in a long time

Author: NDNEIL (7427 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:55 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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We have a true cheat code at RB. And he’s not the only guy. This is a Reggie Bush/Lendale White backfield.

OL should be better than last year and probably a top 3 unit in all of college football when Jag is back. Add that with the RB’s that is pretty significant.

WR/TE should be significantly better. Maybe not dynamic (not sure) but will be much better than last year.

If the QB situation was a known positive I’d feel like this would be a team that would easily compete for a title.

Defensively the back 7 should be about as good as there is in college football.

If the interior DL was more solidified I’d feel extremely confident it was a top 5 defense.

Even with the question marks, guys like Love, Moore, Schueler and a few others can make up for some decencies.

QB situation will get better as year goes on, just have to survive the first month.


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burrow/haskins qb competition turned out well. just because a starter hasn’t been named doesn’t

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16284 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:20 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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mean it’s a bad thing

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For sure, just an unknown

Author: NDNEIL (7427 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:37 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Beating Miami at Hard Rock at night with new QB, DC is a challenge

Author: iairishcheeks (27978 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:44 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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I feel better about ATM at home.

I think we'll have a better idea of who this team is after those two games.


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Valid points

Author: KWIRISH (2050 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:40 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Can we please stop with the narrative that Hard Rock is an oppressive environment?

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8069 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:54 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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For fuck's sake - STOP IT!

It is a shithole that is only sold out for the biggest games. It is orders of magnitude less imposing than, for example, opening at Kyle Field last year. Smack them early and the place will be silent.

As for this year, I am very optimistic. Our D and run game will give our new QB - whoever it is - time to develop. We have dudes all across our lineup with depth that we have not enjoyed in a very long time.

I will be disappointed with anything less than a couple of playoff wins this season.


'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
Thread Level: 4

I can't get 2017 out of my mind.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (25910 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:42 am on Aug 19, 2025
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Kelly and the lads never got off the bus, and the natives were restless.

I agree the stadium is a dump.


Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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How is Hard Rock a shithole?

Author: LanceHarbor (14268 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:22 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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I assume you haven't been there then.

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I was there for the 2025 Orange Bowl...it is pretty bad....

Author: BaronVonZemo (60976 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:26 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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...the seats are old fashioned hard plastic, too close together, and there was an injured pigeon beneath our seats. That's an anecdotal incident, however I mention it because there are lots of pigeons and bird droppings as they fly around inside the top of the stadium whose roof lets them in when it is open - and then they stay.. Not a good view of the game even from the 40 yd line unless you are down near the field - bad in upper deck where I was.
The rides in and out take forever unless you tailgate. The Uber line took hours.
The surrounding Miami Gardens area is sketch. Parts are ok, and then other parts are bad.
The walk to seats first over about half a mile from drop off, then up the spiral cement staircases are too long.
We were all healthy and active, but anyone with movement challenges is inconvenienced more than other venues.

I did like the Orange Bowl Club where ND alumni had their pre game party - that was nice.


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Was there in 2012 for the title game and last year for the Orange Bowl

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8069 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:42 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Bad assumption

'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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Then you’re just being difficult or an idiot.

Author: LanceHarbor (14268 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:52 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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It’s a fine stadium and the club for the Orange Bowl was terrific.

Thread Level: 7

Can we please stop with the narrative that Nigel can defend his pompous proclamations.

Author: iairishcheeks (27978 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:09 am on Aug 19, 2025
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That right there is funny!

Author: faircatchcorby (9869 Posts - Joined: Jan 26, 2011)

Posted at 9:08 am on Aug 19, 2025
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I didn't call it an oppressive environment.

Author: iairishcheeks (27978 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:18 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Maybe you will understand it if I break it down like this:
1. First game for a new QB
2. On the road
3. Night game
4. Rabid fans that hate ND
5. New DC

I still have PTSD from 2017 and their stupid fucking turnover chain.


Thread Level: 4

Amen. Whiner's gonna whine. If it's not this, it's the QB not being named publicly.

Author: Clem (1924 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 4:18 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Guess some folks just need something to whine about.

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Exactly: all we heard last August was “Kyle Field! 12th man! The heat down there!” And we kicked as

Author: murph78 (1940 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:57 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Expect the same in Miami, and grow a pair. This program has changed.

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23-13

Author: NedoftheHill (44945 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:20 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Kicked ass. Not as.

Author: murph78 (1940 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:59 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Thanks! ND 31 Canes 13

Author: Frankx (5540 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 2:17 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Well, high standards are back

Author: ImWearingJeanShorts (4833 Posts - Joined: Jul 15, 2008)

Posted at 1:42 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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and that is a good thing. The media, and public opinion, has rightfully spared Freeman of the "ND is overrated" tripe that every coach prior to him since Holtz was subject to. That's a credit to his success (and having a general likeability helps). Freeman has delivered on all fronts. Winning the big games, getting to the title game in year one of the new playoff format, tearing it up on the recruiting path. There have definitely been hiccups along the way, but the general path of the program has been heading in the right direction.

With this success comes higher standards. Playoffs are the minimum goal, and this should be an annual expectation until something changes. The defense should be elite and the offense should be good enough. Internally, there's no doubt the only talk is about finishing the job and winning it all.

Last year's team was undoubtedly great in terms of the end result, but it was still frustrating and average on many occasions. I think if they can take last year's success and build upon it--become more efficient, more potent, more cut-throat--the sky is the limit assuming they stay healthy.

With a tougher schedule (it seems) this year and a new QB, it's going to be a harder road to the playoffs in my opinion. But my minimum expectation is to make the playoffs, then you just see what happens from there. I don't think this team is good enough to expect a national championship win, but that's the direction the program seems to be heading towards.


Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
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I'm salivating at the "opportunities" to defeat Miami and USC.

Author: Curly1918 (16671 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:12 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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I "feel" our team is more TOGEHER psychologically.

We don't seem like a bunch of mercenaries.


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Re: How are people feeling about the season? Seems like cautious optimism mixed with dread.

Author: notalegacy (8 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2024)

Posted at 12:58 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Cautiously optimisitc. I'll feel better after MF names the starting QB,.

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I feel better than I have in years. BUT: I truly wouldn't be

Author: irishone (2076 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:27 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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shocked if we lose the first two. I'm hoping for 1-1, and then run the table, finish 11-1.

There are LOTS of potential losses on this year's slate if we don't bring our A game every week.


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Barring some sort of horrible disaster, deep into the playoffs

Author: ndunabomber (6544 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:49 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Assuming that we don't get hammered by the injury bug like we did last year, this is a much more complete team compared to the 2024's roster.

Mike Denbrock has now had a full year to get his system in place, and knows what he's working with. There's no reason why the offense shouldn't be significantly better.

The defensive roster is well stocked with polished veterans. If Chris Ash is as good of a DC as I think he can be, then there shouldn't be any dropoff either.

Even if Ash isn't up to snuff, the presence of those developed veterans can mitigate things (like they did in 2002 with Kent Baer's foolish playcalling).


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i’ve always thought 25 would be the year. I think Ash will introduce some things that elevate

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16284 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:37 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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the defense. The offense will be fine. I always get nervous about the obligatory head scratching loss. I see 10-2 and another trip to the national title game.

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