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Informative (to me) discussion on ND's defensive woes on the Matt Fortuna and Pete Sampson podcast

Author: lacan (1469 Posts - Joined: Apr 24, 2015)

Posted at 3:54 pm on Sep 24, 2025
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(The Independent) with NBC analyst Joshua Perry who played for Chris Ash on Ohio State's 2014 NC team. Perry's main point seems to be that ND's defensive woes are the result of the inability to get pressure on the QB. I've linked to where he answers the question of his early impressions of the Ash era/experiment at ND.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTb0v2zWmaM&t=1793s

Replies to: Informative (to me) discussion on ND's defensive woes on the Matt Fortuna and Pete Sampson podcast


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The dynamic duo

Author: DonMiller (3150 Posts - Joined: Dec 20, 2016)

Posted at 11:09 pm on Sep 24, 2025
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I'm sorry, but I cannot listen to Matt Fortuna wrt ND Football.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61651 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:00 pm on Sep 24, 2025
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I specifically linked to the point in the podcast with Perry because of his insights having ...

Author: lacan (1469 Posts - Joined: Apr 24, 2015)

Posted at 10:37 pm on Sep 24, 2025
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played for Ash and having spent time with and talked to Ash and Freeman this summer. He expressed his opinions, not Fortuna's or Sampson's.

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and Sampson has a bur up his a$$ re: Freeman

Author: D2 (7715 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:39 pm on Sep 24, 2025
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Sampson kissed Kelly butt so much if Kelly stopped too fast, he'd have to have Sampson surgically removed.

He has been much more critical of Freeman than he ever was of Kelly, most likely because Freeman doesn't treat him with the deference Sampson thinks he deserves.


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Noticed that. At least Sampson is a talented writer. But when you're Fat Mortuna isn't wise.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61651 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:54 pm on Sep 24, 2025
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I certainly don't disagree with his points especially about the lack of pressure because we all see

Author: jray (3500 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:45 pm on Sep 24, 2025
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that, and no doubt is the biggest reason ND lost their first two games by giving up so many points (though offense game plan against Miami was horrible) as the QB's had all day to throw, but it kind of goes back to the why? The reason I say that, yes we would probably agree that ND currently does not have two interior defensive lineman like Saban had at Bama or some of the guys Kirby once had at Georgia, but the guys we have aren't slouches either and the recruiting has been very good. ND returned basically all the edge rushers from last year, yet the pressure and production has fallen off. Maybe Golden was just better at scheming ways to get pressure on the QB's. I can remember many a times last year when the pressure got home like instantaneously. All I know is that the defense has given up a lot of points through three games that we haven't seen happen in a while, and if things aren't corrected, USC will light us up. The biggest change to the defense has been Ash, and for whatever reason, the defense from the eye test looks much different than what we saw a few months ago during the playoffs. Let's hope it gets corrected because ND has no margin for error now.

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It's because Ash isn't utilizing any pre snap shifts and few stunts, games and blitzes.

Author: Clem (2123 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 5:07 pm on Sep 24, 2025
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He's making life very easy for opposing olinemen and QB's because they know where everyone is lined up pre-snap and coming from post snap. Doing zero to stress their eye discipline, communication, footwork and ability to pass off rushers.

Watching games from last year and this year, the difference is stark and the results predictable.


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If that's true, then why? In the podcast, Perry talks about what the coaches can do to get ...

Author: lacan (1469 Posts - Joined: Apr 24, 2015)

Posted at 10:44 pm on Sep 24, 2025
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pressure on the QB and talked of approaches common to Freeman and to Ash when the latter was coaching him at Ohio State, manipulating the offense's protection schemes with linebackers on the line of scrimmage. (Linked that comment.)

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTb0v2zWmaM&t=2010s

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Good listen, thanks for that. It's amazing how much simply moving guys around pre snap

Author: Clem (2123 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 5:27 am on Sep 25, 2025
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can create confusion for an oline and the QB. Seems so simple, but watching games from last year to this year really brings home how effective it is.

No clue why it's not being done this year (so far) but it would seem like a no brainer.


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Spoken like a good Jamie Uyeyama disciple. Totally agree. Not sure if new DL line up rules re stems

Author: BaronVonZemo (61651 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:58 pm on Sep 24, 2025
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is the reason, but other teams seem to be doing it to us.

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For sure, Jamie's the best, but he's not alone with this observation and what it means

Author: Clem (2123 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 5:35 am on Sep 25, 2025
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for creating pressure (physical and mental) for an offense and freeing guys up to get in the backfield.

With such an experienced group up front it's mindboggling that this is even an issue. The only reason I can think of is Ash wants to play it safe, leave no seams and play bend but don't break.


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Too bad for Ash we have been bending and breaking. Go offense.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17430 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 6:44 pm on Sep 25, 2025
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Yes. This is reflected in excellent run D but weak pass D. Golden said he didn’t care about the run

Author: BaronVonZemo (61651 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:14 am on Sep 25, 2025
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He felt that you have to dtop the pass and stomach giving up dome run plays against most teams

A run game like ND would be a different story defending.

I think this philosophical difference between Ash (whi emphasizes run D) and Golden explains a lot if what we are seeing ;aling with Ash not having the ability to adjust in game on the fly like Golden did).


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I keep adding this. I think freeman wants bend but don’t break. Ash is doing what he is told

Author: ndphysics (4423 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 6:24 am on Sep 25, 2025
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Don't believe that for a second. He's stated many times he wants an aggressive, dominating D and

Author: Clem (2123 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 7:48 am on Sep 25, 2025
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who they've recruited has backed that up. Long, fast, athletic ends and LB's, CB's that are long and athletic to play aggressive man at the LOS, etc.

Ash is just a dumpster fire of a hire and MF needs to find a way to get the D playing fast and aggressive again despite him.


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Your last sentence is what jumps out to me. They don’t seem to be playing fast/explosive. Usually

Author: jray (3500 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:23 am on Sep 25, 2025
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when they aren’t playing fast, they are thinking too much.

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Maybe, but the D is broken consistently

Author: AlbanyIRISH (26206 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:48 am on Sep 25, 2025
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1st downs, chunk gains, you name it.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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Great observationšŸ‘

Author: ColeyO (12724 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:17 pm on Sep 24, 2025
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