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PSU fires Franklin.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (26157 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:09 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Boom.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability

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Surprising but not surprised

Author: croaker (553 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:07 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Mention of mulligans for having rebuilt program and making progress in playoff progression make some sense, but....

I think his history of not winning the big game, combined with now not winning the gimme's made them think he isn't the answer.
Better to get out in front and cherry pick than wait until the musical chairs for head coaches is over and they are stuck with James Franklin II.

Cignetti makes a lot of sense as the current hot coach, but at 64, is that what you want to build you program around? Will recruits believe he'll still be there by the time they are upper classman? Be interesting to see, but I hope they make a poor decision.


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Replacement candidates

Author: ndunabomber (6711 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:16 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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The discussions now are about going after a couple of former Penn State guys.

Matt Rhule would be the obvious choice, since he has shown he can rebuild a program, having success at Temple, Baylor, and now, arguably, Nebraska.

The other one is Manny Diaz, who was the DC under Franklin for a couple of years, and seems to have learned the ins and outs better as Duke's HC.


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No

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8120 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:42 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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The obvious choice is Cignetti. Given that PSU is willing to eat a $50M buyout, I will be shocked if this does not happen.

He is the hot coach du jour.


'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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Rhule can't beat ranked teams.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (26157 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:29 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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No matter where he coaches.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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Then they should be used to a guy like him.

Author: ndphysics (4330 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 6:39 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Good one

Author: ndunabomber (6711 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:23 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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IU is going to need to increase Cignetti’s salary and terms

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4683 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:09 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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PSU will beat anything IU can throw out there.

Author: Clem (2103 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 5:22 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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And, as a bonus for Cignetti, he'll continue to be able to play the charmin soft schedules that drew him to IU.

Something Florida can't offer.


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Isn’t his compensation package his full salary plus $50million?!?!

Author: Jerseymick (5247 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:58 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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No, according to the ESPN article.

Author: PaND (2973 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 4:13 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Former athletic director Sandy Barbour signed Franklin to a 10-year contract extension worth up to $85 million in 2021. According to terms of the deal, Penn State will have to pay Franklin's base salary of $500,000, supplemental pay of $6.5 million and insurance loan of $1 million until 2031.

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Franklin is owed more than $49 million, per his contract, which is the second-biggest in college

Author: whatsamataU (25265 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:53 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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football and second only to Jimbo Fishers $76 M.

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They'll happily pay that

Author: ndunabomber (6711 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:11 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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After all, they paid out close to $300 million for the damages, legal fees, etc., related to the Paterno / Sandusky incident without touching that $4.67 billion endowment fund.

They've never had a shortage of generous, wealthy alumni, even during those putrid times (Paterno / Sandusky incident above).


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Doesn't getting hired at another coaching job reduce these payouts? PSU is on the hook until

Author: jrdjr84 (1090 Posts - Joined: Jan 14, 2014)

Posted at 4:25 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Arkansas or Va Tech or whoever else pays Franklin about what he was making...

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I hate Franklin, but this seems nuts.

Author: jakers (14148 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:20 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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The man took over the program when it was on death's door. They've been to major bowls (including 2 Rose Bowl wins) and won 2 playoff games last year.

And they fire him at 3-3???


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Not at all. He's been there 11 years and his inability to beat elite teams is undisputed. The last

Author: MAS (21908 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:51 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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three games have been awful. They're no more satisfied with Franklin than most ND fans were satisfied with Kelly. Had Kelly experienced three losses like these in a row, there would have been the same calls to fire him as the calls from Happy Valley to fire Franklin.

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I'm surprised as well

Author: ndunabomber (6711 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:28 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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I thought he'd get a mulligan for having several very good years, as well as last season's CFP semifinal appearance. That, plus there was still plenty of time to turn the team around and get them to a bowl game.

Normally, starting out a season 3-3 isn't going to get you fired, but I'm guessing that because he back to back games where PSU was favored by 3+ scores, their Board of Trustees panicked.

His pattern of success was very good, but not elite. If anything, his record looks a lot like Brian Kelly's, maybe even a bit better.

You're very much correct, that he can rebuild a program and get it to top 10 contention. While a lot of the credit for his initial success goes to Bill O'Brien, Franklin still brought in good recruiting, and developed a lot of NFL talent.

He blasted away the weaklings, comfortably beat the average teams, and usually beat the good teams, but when it came to the very good or elite teams, he didn't exactly have the best of success.

2-3 loss seasons became the norm over there, though.


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wasn’t it Obrien who took it over?

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16431 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:25 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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For one season. Remember, that was a multi-year penalty.

Author: jakers (14148 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:31 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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I agree, it's whacko

Author: NDQuebec (2183 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 4:50 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Penn State is a dark cult society. It’s predictably insane.

Author: Hensou (9240 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:58 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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I’m sure PSU has its own Dave Portnoy. The deal with the devil.

Author: LanceManion (8752 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 3:58 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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One more reason this mess needs to be regulated.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Terry Pegula

Author: AlbanyIRISH (26157 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:06 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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I agree, they were #5 last year.

Author: PaND (2973 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 3:38 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Starting QB is out, 3-3 does not seem fireable. He is not a likable dude, which probably came into play.

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He’s laughing all the way to the bank. It’s a $50 million buyout.

Author: Hensou (9240 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 4:00 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Prolly in back room talks with Cignetti for the job.

Author: Clem (2103 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 3:32 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Slimy? Yes, but it's Penn St.

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I’m truly shocked.

Author: irishone (2117 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:19 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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But he lost the fan base. I read online that 30 mins before kickoff the place was half empty. And fans left long before game ended. And the Fire Franklin chants were coming from alumni and boosters, not the student section this time.

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So sad! - how about those Hoosiers?

Author: jimbasil (53350 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 3:15 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Well, Penn State did transform from preseason #2 to a big Number 2

Author: humbaba (1275 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:14 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Surprising timing. Not as to outcome.

Author: LanceManion (8752 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 2:59 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Wow. The sport is so screwy right now.

Author: Chris94 (37441 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:52 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Franklin is a complete asshole who deserved it.

But this year there have been more early-season firings than ever. It’s just so weird.


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Potential impact on our recruiting?

Author: Curly1918 (16941 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 2:43 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Priorities. Some things can, and will, be tolerated, but losing football games is a capital offense

Author: Clem (2103 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 2:40 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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Another proud day in Happy Valley.

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Just came out. Well he can buy a nice place in FL and fade away with the buyout

Author: ndphysics (4330 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 2:10 pm on Oct 12, 2025
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He must have lost the team. U would think he would get the whole year based on last years run

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