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Interesting Post on ND-USC

Author: irishone (2156 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:49 am on Oct 22, 2025
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TBH, some valid points are raised/

Link: So Cal - ND Fiture?

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Thread Level: 2

USC has made themselves just another Big 10 team... instead of perpetual kings of the left coast.

Author: Curly1918 (17082 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:39 pm on Oct 22, 2025
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Schlepping cross country to play middling midwest teams is not going to enhance the Trojan profile... especially when they struggle to win.

So YES... USC does not need the Irish.

And it appears that intersectional rivalries are passe... so maybe ND does not need USC anymore also.


Thread Level: 3

"People go to USC because it is easier to spell than UCLA." - Lou Holtz

Author: FoolBear (449 Posts - Joined: Oct 26, 2017)

Posted at 1:52 pm on Oct 22, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

I’d offer UCLA the spot on ND’s football schedule and a perpetual home and home on the basketball

Author: sweetbobbyg (240 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 3:43 pm on Oct 22, 2025
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schedule, if USC backs out of the rivalry.

Same LA market, next best thing, imho.


Thread Level: 5

While this is a good suggestion, I don’t think UCLA wants to play us either.

Author: Hensou (9639 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 4:57 pm on Oct 22, 2025
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The two LA schools want to shut us out of that recruiting market. No more playing in front of the hometown LA fans every other year.

I think UCLA is happy with the cash grab and mediocrity.


Thread Level: 6

More cash to grab, no?

Author: sweetbobbyg (240 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 8:43 pm on Oct 22, 2025
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I think they’d prefer to buy a victory against a local pushover.

Author: Hensou (9639 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 10:54 pm on Oct 22, 2025
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I don't disagree with their rationale, however, USC is headed for a Nebraskaesque future and losing

Author: FoolBear (449 Posts - Joined: Oct 26, 2017)

Posted at 12:51 pm on Oct 22, 2025
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ND will only exacerbate it, in my opinion. The BIG10 does NOT have enough quality teams to fill a schedule with BIG MARKET matchups.... to be honest you will have only 1-2 big games a year (OSU, Oregon, Penn St, Michigan) and the rest are now mid. Nebraska has lost all of its rivalry's and playing the likes of Iowa or Northwestern each week is of no national interest. Even this year, Nebraska gets all excited about their team (5-1) because they haven't played anyone... then they lose to Minnesota. They can have their best record in a decade and still have no national respect.

USC is headed to the same fate. West Coast teams, of all sports, are afterthoughts because of the time difference and unless there is a coaching change, this #1 recruiting class will have the same fate as Caleb Williams teams... under performing. Can you watch this USC team fold Saturday and think it will chance to beat OSU in the future (unless there is a dramatic change from the top-down)? USC will not support a program that can't win a BIG10 championship or even make an expanded playoff for long. Again, USC will be the west coast Nebraska and ND would enjoy piling on them for the rest of the decade, but we might start feeling sorry for them, as well!


Thread Level: 3

Yes, it will be much harder to dominate.

Author: Hensou (9639 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:10 pm on Oct 22, 2025
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Thread Level: 2

Laughable how this B10 gomer claims it is ND who won't sign an extension. No credibility.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61973 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:32 pm on Oct 22, 2025
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Their opinion would carry more weight if they didn't just get their butts kicked.

Author: iairishcheeks (28671 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:46 am on Oct 22, 2025
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Isn't the bigger question: why do schools even need conferences any more? Nix the middle man.

Author: LanceManion (9026 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:24 am on Oct 22, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 3

This is an easy fix for the Power 5. 6 regional divisions, 11 teams each.

Author: jakers (14267 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:58 am on Oct 22, 2025
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Northwest, Southwest, North, South, Northeast, Southeast. Each region champion gets an automatic playoff bid. The next best 5 get at-large bids. 16-team playoff.

No more ridiculous Stanford A.C.C. games, nor U.S.C. Big 10 games.

Separate from the N.C.A.A. Run as a sole "league."


Thread Level: 4

I think this is where it ends up, or something like it. Anyone who sees ND's haul from 2024 CFP and

Author: LanceManion (9026 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 1:57 pm on Oct 22, 2025
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wants to be in a conference, plays for a team that is never going to compete for it all and just wants the easy money. It's basically baseball revenue sharing.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 4

This is inevitable.

Author: D2 (7730 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:14 pm on Oct 22, 2025
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With the conferences getting so big, it has become difficult to establish the (for example) the 3 or 4 best teams in a conference re: playoff determination.

Indiana, for example, played only 2 real viable playoff "contenders," Ohio State and Michigan in 2024. In 2025 they only play Oregon and Penn State, and let's not pretend that Illinois is a viable playoff possibility. Granted you never really know when a team is going to pop up and become a viable playoff contender, but Indiana will likely get into the playoffs having played only one playoff contender plus likely OSU in the BIG Champ game. Considering Indiana's shameful OOC schedule (in '25 Kennesaw State, Old Dominion, and Indiana State) they have worked their way to #2 because of a really soft schedule (49 in Sagarin, 30 in ESPN and 43 re: remaining schedule). Yet unless they do a face plant, they are in. I'm just using Indiana as an example. Ohio State (SOS Sagarin 20, ESPN 33), for that matter, will likely be the #1 seed based on playing only Texas and Michigan and will likely be the #1 seed.

I am of the opinion that an NFL type set up is coming (as you have suggested) as many teams will argue they were more "deserving" the playoffs than the ones who get in with "pretty" records.


Thread Level: 4

This structure would be great.

Author: iairishcheeks (28671 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:47 pm on Oct 22, 2025
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The article is pure crap. Opinion not facts.

Author: Hensou (9639 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 11:23 am on Oct 22, 2025
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The fact is usc is scared to play ND when we are good. That’s why they want a year to year single game contract.

A late season loss in LA would hurt their playoff chances.

They don’t want a cold weather game because they are soft.

Pure arrogance to suggest we need them much more than they need us.

Let’s see the ratings on the usc versus UCLA game.


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Thread Level: 2

EVERY major school will only want to play ND in the first three weeks of the season going forward...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (34244 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:20 am on Oct 22, 2025
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No one will want to take a break from their B1G or SEC schedule going forward to play ND, as long as ND remains competitive...

ACC doesn't have quite their juice...hence part of the reason for the Clemson deal.

Notice, however, that Miami next year does not have a date assigned yet. Bet Miami is pushing for an end of August early date...given that September is already booked out for the Irish.


Thread Level: 3

Possibly true. So why give usc a favored spot?

Author: Hensou (9639 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 11:41 am on Oct 22, 2025
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I have enjoyed the home and home series with the likes of Texas, TAMU, tOSU and UGA. I would much rather continue that concept than give usc a preferred spot.

Thread Level: 4

I would not give them a favored spot. Series should stay scheduled substantially as it is in my view

Author: TakethetrainKnute (34244 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:07 pm on Oct 22, 2025
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Thread Level: 2

Big Ten Information and News. Not biased at all.

Author: jimbasil (53599 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:59 am on Oct 22, 2025
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The truth is - college football needs this rivalry the most.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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