How delicious would it be if U of M and USC go independent?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/michigan-threatens-independence-over-big-ten-s-2-4b-private-equity-deal-now-on-hold/ar-AA1QCBQM?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=691c7dd219f64ec19e18570293e055e4&ei=40
That would eviscerate all the trolling about ND's not being in a conference.
Replies to: How delicious would it be if U of M and USC go independent?
Outside of key investors there is no industry PE firms have helped other than raising prices for
consumers.
PE firms in college football will be a disaster.
Turmoil can be very interesting.
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Be careful of the Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times."
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I’m there.
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That might be a step toward an SEC superconference. Which would be an abomination.
Why is it that so many people want to make college football like the NFL?
Many fans didn’t even graduate from the school they root for
Let alone even go to college. Why wouldn’t they treat it just like an NFL team and not give a shit about the school, the academics, the reputation?
Well so far it has been successful because the playoffs make it much better.
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Because the NFL makes a ton of money.
I don’t know why this board has such a hard time realizing the old days of college football are never coming back.
I don't understand why anyone would think that more changes are needed to make it like the NFL
The constant money-grubbing will kill this sport if we let it. Already lots of changes have been made by people who don't understand what makes the sport great.
No more.
You have different definitions for success and killing than the people running it.
And they will win.
Oh I don't doubt that
And I don't overestimate the forces of tradition. And goodness.
When it comes to college sports, the answer to all your questions is money.
If by "win" you mean get their way...strongly suspect you're right. Not entirely sure that they...
...will not strangle the golden goose in the process though.
Not sure the profiteers really understand what makes college football as popular as it has been. I don't think being a second pro league is it...
The Green Wave has become part of the problem as they are now ranked # 24 in football.
Still in the Top 5 as a party school.
USNWR #69 in National Universities.
It has become a football factory.
GOAT, it’s adorable how obsessed you are with Chris.
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Not GOAT. Care to dispute any of the stats I posted?
Seems you are obsessed with a poster who hasn't been here since 2009.
BTW, Prof can take care of himself. I don't understand why he needs to be protected.
I also think maybe he has a sense of humor.
Pointing out an obsession is not typically seen as protection.
And I know nothing about Tulane other than it’s probably fun to attend.
The change of handles for you (twice) is evident. The unanswered question is “why.” I mean everyone has know you’re insane for years, others discussing it at length much more than I, but that is a puzzle.
But, yes, you’re new here but just happen to know about posters that posted 20 years ago.
"Hensou" can also recall virtually all of "Aragoto's" posts...remarkable "Lurker" ;-)
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Truly silly analysis, harbor
You do little on this board except offer occasional snark potshots.
I lurked on this board for many years before I posted . I fully admit I know GOAT. I wish I was his equal.
If you know nothing about Tulane why would you
question my assertions?
Can you refute any of them?
Or are you just entertaining your obsession with
GOAT?
Finger guns, GOAT!
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Spam on, lance.
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While I agree with you wholeheartedly…College Football is now “half-pregnant”. Don’t think there is
…really any way to stop it.
“NIL” lasted as true NIL for about a millisecond if ever…
...and gets a free minor league to boot...
I don't think old college football is coming back. It's not.
Don't necessarily see that "new college football" is working out all that well however...except maybe for a limited few.
Was there a need for a minor league of professional teams ultimately pretending they are affiliated with universities in an increasingly tenuous way?
I guess we'll all find out. Stay tuned...
A salary cap (like the NFL) is the answer!
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It takes 2 to tango. A salary cap instituted w/o a players' union CBA would be illegal collusion...
I'm not a lawyer, but I think I'm right about that.
The salary was capped at the value of a scholarship...
...for those that played by the rules.
It's only a matter of time before the profitable brands dump the hangers on. When the bottom half of
the league has won 25% of its games or less, that is straight up pathetic.
The programs that will succeed in this new world of sports will be those who INNOVATE!
For example: finding revenue options outside of the norm, partnerships with companies/naming rights and pro-sports teams, recruitment revenue incentives at the high school level, etc.... would this be easier at the INDEPENDENT level, or make it harder?
For ND, I think they have the flexibility, connections, and brand to pull it off; but few others could.
To your point:
- maybe USC with the LA/Hollywood connections, but they are a dumpster fire currently. (They are one bad loss away from firing their coach and starting all over.)
- Michigan could but I don't think they have the leadership/coach to turn it into wins without Harbaugh(cheating).
- The SEC teams (Texas, Alabama, Georgia) are sold on the SEC and too invested/dependent on the ESPN/media propping up the SEC to go alone.
Re: How delicious would it be if U of M and USC go independent?
Now that would be a good nucleus - Add ND and cherry pick for all the best reasons - academics as well as athletics (all sports and some not so powerful powerhouses) - ND, Michigan, USC, Texas, Florida, NC, Va, Purdue, Miami, Stanford, Duke, and SMU make for a balanced, national, academic, wealthy and powerful 12-team league. (add Cal or Georgia and subtract others, no big whup). Think the next 50 years, not just today. Stick with an 8-game slate and that allows these schools to keep their traditional rivalries.
An independent USC sure would be sorry it tossed away the ND rivalry...
...in my view.
I'd take USC back and Michigan too
Schedule long term home and home on our terms. These are the teams we are meant to play.
Throw in Clemson if they shake off their funk and strength of schedule becomes a non issue as usually there a couple ACC teams that at pretty good and we'll get them fairly often.
I'd take
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They will rue the day they tried to better deal ND. Payback is a bitch.
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They have no idea...how small-minded and vindictive I can be...
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I hope they get a chance to find out.
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Curious, would the Big 10 freeze them out?
I think ND would adopt both orphans as soon as possible.
I would agree...but make them beg first...
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I like it.
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