espn wants a 16 team CFP moving forward.
They have stated as much.
Replies to: espn wants a 16 team CFP moving forward.
It should be 16, but there should only be 5 AQs (Top 5 Conf Champs)
The other 11 should be strictly by CFT ranking, in that order, Conf affiliation be damned
No byes, Top 8 get a first round home, Top 3 Conf Champs get to pick which leg of bracket they play in (but still seeded in ranking order), 4th Conf Champ gets the remaining leg (seeded in ranking order)
This would not add any additional rounds or weeks to the current 12 team playoff, would keep campus games a part of the playoffs, would eliminate byes while still rewarding Conference Champs, but would all Conferences to make the choice of still playing physical CCGs or just naming a Conf Champ.
as long as there is subjective decision-making, there are going to be issues
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There will always be complaints, people find ways to complain about who gets in NFL playoffs...
But as long as you have a hard set number that makes sense, you deal with it
FCS has less teams than FBS but they have 24 teams in the playoffs...is that not still considered a playoff?
16 only seems like a lot because we aren't used to it, on a numbers and logistics basis, 16 is the perfect number for FBS, but only if the SEC and B1G aren't allowed to lock up 10+ AQ spots like they want to.
i’m not aware of people complaining about who gets in the NFL playoffs. Regardless, a 16 or 24 team
playoff with fewer automatic qualifiers creates more chaos. The SEC is going to get in 5 this year and believes it should have 7.
I posted my proposal earlier in the week. A combination NFL/European soccer approach.
I'm not for 24, and in a 16 team CFP, if SEC gets 5 or 7 in based on merit, ie where they're ranked
then I'm fine with it
But having any number as a hard set rule for AQs outside of the Conf Champ is total BS that ignores the reality that teams and conference go up and down year to year
that’s the issue, who defines merit when leagues rarely play each other
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The CFP Committee! Who actually does a pretty darned good job with their rankings
Remember they had us up at number 4 last year before CCGs
When their hands aren't tied by rules they do a good job of ranking the teams
Change the rules of the CFP and the number of teams to 16 and no more, but keep the rankings the same unless they give us a reason to change it
I want as little subjectively as possible.
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Can't be done with this many teams in this many different conferences, who
make their own schedules and can intentionally schedule weak opponents if they want to.
The black and white method of the NFL works because of how small they are (in terms of # of teams) AND more importantly their schedules are 100% made for them, so in theory (while luck of the draw can change things) everyone should be playing schedules with similar levels of competition
You can never get that in CFB, which is why allowing 16 teams in, to help mitigate the margin of error with subjectivity, is the right move
that's why I'm a proponent of blowing it up. No reason to put lipstick on a pig.
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Blowing what up? Elaborate!
For the record, I don't think making it 16 teams is lipstick, I think it's perfect
A 4 round playoff to decide a NC, with no byes, still incorporating campus games AND the major bowls
As long as the SEC and B1G don't get to lock up 63-75% of the bids with AQs, so they can artificially populate it with 7-5 teams in their down years, there's no issue
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i posted it earlier. for football only get rid of conferences.
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Nah, I don't like it...
In a region based system using your method, 5 of the best teams in the country might be from the same region (SEC) in a particular year but are capped at 2 teams
This is just the opposite side of a bad fence that AQs creates... neither AQs or Caps have any place in a playoff meant to determine the best in the Nation. The real, real, really real answer is that Conference finishes should be related to what they really amount to, bragging rights.
Come up with a legitimate comprehensive ranking system (committee, BCS, metric, whatevs) and put the Top 16 in straight, in that order, no byes, no AQs, no Caps, Top 3 pick which bracket they host with #4 getting the remaining bracket, first round on college campuses, remaining rounds use major bowls. The end.
i liked the way ohio used to do high school playoffs. teams got points for their wins
and the wins of their competition. less points for playing teams in a lower division.
I mean they could easily do something like that as major part (SOS ranking) in CFP
Don't know the exact math but let's start with this and see how some teams look
1 point for each FBS win
.75 points for each FCS win
.5 for each opponent FBS win
.25 for each opponent FCS win
no different than the two best nfl teams being in the same conference
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It is different, in two ways
NFL conferences aren't regional so you can get more than 2 teams from a region into to playoffs, also NFL teams are made up of drafted players not recruited, so the regional significance loses some of its value
ie, the Cleveland Browns (just as an example, but could be any NFL team) aren't a team of mostly Ohio players with a small percent recruited from other hot bed areas, it a conglomerate of players from all over the country, while Tosu is basically the opposite
Why not 64 teams? Then we can quibble about # 63 thru 65.
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Yeah, that makes total sense. 64 would be 47% of the field (more than even NFL), 16 would be 11%
Super Comparable!
there always will be bitching as long as it’s subjective. guy on X said it right, it’s now an
invitational or tournament but it’s not a playoff.
Don't be ridiculous, the NFL has 14 of 32 (44%) in "playoffs" 16 of 136 is only 11%, huge difference
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but the NFL doesn’t have subjectivity in its playoffs
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Yes, which would be a rationale to have MORE (not less) college teams in a playoff...
to account for the subjectivity through a higher %
Allowing only 16 of 136 teams in the playoffs is still ULTRA selective...it would be the equivalent of the NFL having 3.8 playoff participants
Hardly an invitational