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If we are frozen out of the playoffs should we join a conference?

Author: Curly1918 (17197 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:28 am on Dec 4, 2025
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As things stand regarding playoff qualification, it will be tougher and tougher to boost our SOS AND schedule elite opponents "during" the season, especially for home games.

This will have a detrimental ripple effect on recruiting as we are increasingly unable to impress big time recruits at mega-games.

Personally, I lean toward the ACC. I detest the Big Ten and the ACC is a decent fit academically.


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Thread Level: 2

We could have lost the first two games in a conference!

Author: whatsamataU (25652 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:39 pm on Dec 4, 2025
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Only the new Super Conference.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (26497 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:30 pm on Dec 4, 2025
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Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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No! ND will not be excluded. Networks love ND, Yankees & Cowboys! Great TV ratings! Love or hate

Author: irishslovak (1570 Posts - Joined: Oct 30, 2022)

Posted at 11:50 am on Dec 4, 2025
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them folks watch them!

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Re: No! ND will not be excluded.

Author: irishelder (668 Posts - Joined: Feb 4, 2008)

Posted at 12:23 pm on Dec 4, 2025
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You sir, are exactly right ! ND is a bigger TV draw than BYU, Texas Tech, Indiana, Miami. And whoever

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Yes, let’s dump 130+ years of tradition because we lost our first two games

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8224 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:08 am on Dec 4, 2025
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Just stop.

'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
Thread Level: 3

Our 130+ year "tradition" did not involve a full schedule of patsies.

Author: Curly1918 (17197 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 11:43 am on Dec 4, 2025
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We will get dumped by the blue blood programs for whom we are a potential impediment to qualifying for the playoffs.

The best teams will cease scheduling out of conference games they fear might keep them out of the playoffs.

Texas, for example, would be in but for their early season loss to Ohio State,

USC already considers us an unnecessary burden.


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Thread Level: 4

True - Chicago Pre-Flight was a tough out

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8224 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:44 pm on Dec 4, 2025
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'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
Thread Level: 5

Read the new Leahy book.

Author: AlbanyIRISH (26497 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:33 pm on Dec 4, 2025
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Those military base teams had the best college and professional players on them.

Kind of reminds me of when Rocket Ismail played for Notre Dame
Invincibility with no vulnerability
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Thanks - I plan to

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8224 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:26 am on Dec 5, 2025
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I know Fred is here. Would be very interested in his perspective on the book.

'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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Lost to Physicians & Surgeons a couple times...along with Indianapolis Light Artillery...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (34431 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:17 pm on Dec 4, 2025
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the scheduling will be the challenge. Until the conferences get all the automatic qualifiers they

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16625 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:16 pm on Dec 4, 2025
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want, there will be some reluctance to schedule Notre Dame. The overall weakness of the rest of the ACC did not help Notre Dame this year.. Notre Dame played some historically bad teams.

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No. The traditional conferences will go away at some point. Plus, I think we'd get screwed.

Author: LanceManion (9285 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 10:02 am on Dec 4, 2025
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All these teams that join conferences are second class citizens within the conference. Only conferences I'd consider are ones where we'd dominate year-in and year-out. And I don't see the admin going for that from an academic perspective.

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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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The dissolution of conferences will be a litigation apocalypse involving many parties.

Author: Curly1918 (17197 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 11:46 am on Dec 4, 2025
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I suspect that Congress will have to get involved.

It will be another Civil War.

College football is headed toward a Cluster****


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Author: Curly1918 (17197 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 11:46 am on Dec 4, 2025
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If u want to be independent, it comes with strings attached.

Author: ndphysics (4803 Posts - Joined: Sep 17, 2016)

Posted at 9:59 am on Dec 4, 2025
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We made that choice

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ND stakeholders will prevent a true conference affiliation. This is fine as long as the same people

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16625 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:37 am on Dec 4, 2025
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realize that ND cannot lose more than one game per year to have ongoing placement in the playoffs. And, that's assuming the schedule is worth a shit. Why people believe a league offers a better schedule is a mystery to me; however, it's clear the Big 10 and SEC are going to accept only more teams in a playoff if they get more automatic qualifiers. ND always will be on the outside looking in.

As long as conference championships exist, I would like to see ND find a way to get a 13th game on the schedule against a group of 4 team. Perhaps the highest rated conference team outside the top 12, 16 or whatever playoff spots. In this case, it would either by Vanderbilt, Texas or Utah...or even Miami, again.


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No. The CFP will go to 16 and we'll be able to get in any year we're good.

Author: Chrisb (16574 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:49 am on Dec 4, 2025
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"Shit! We suck again." -anonymous
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Are you content playing a full schedule of patsies? There's no reason for an elite team to play ND.

Author: Curly1918 (17197 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:25 am on Dec 4, 2025
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And how prepared will we be during the playoffs if we've never faces serious competition?

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Elite teams have played us and will play us.

Author: Hensou (9817 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 10:01 am on Dec 4, 2025
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At the beginning of the season.

It’s not ND’s fault the ACC turned into a cow pie this season.


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No. So we can play a 7-5 opponent in the title game? Just win 1 of two to start the season.

Author: ELP (10673 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 8:50 am on Dec 4, 2025
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Clemson, Florida State, Miami and Virgina Tech are traditional powers who will recover...

Author: Curly1918 (17197 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:22 am on Dec 4, 2025
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just like we have.

And ND in the ACC seriously upgrades the conference's profile.


Thread Level: 5

Those teams play us now. We made it last year and would have this year if we win at least 1 of 2.

Author: ELP (10673 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 1:13 pm on Dec 4, 2025
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No conference affiliation in football, but, I don't call the shots.


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