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I posted earlier that another suspect possessing 15,000 fentanyl pills in NYC was required to post

Author: TyroneIrish (20569 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 1:08 am on Nov 14, 2022
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$25,000 in Cash Bail...as for NY's law, check out the attached link...there is no clear connection between the crime rate and the new law...here is a pertinent excerpt from that article...

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But the best available information suggests that bail reform is not the primary driver of these increases in crime. One recent analysis by the Times Union of Albany suggested that relatively few people released under the new law went on to be rearrested for serious offenses. The Times Union reviewed state data on pretrial releases between July 2020 and June 2021, identifying nearly 100,000 cases where someone was released pretrial in a decision “related to the state’s changed bail laws.” Just 2 percent of those 100,000 cases led to a rearrest for a violent felony; of these, 429 cases led to a rearrest for a violent felony involving a firearm. Roughly one-fifth of all cases resulted in a rearrest for “any offense,” regardless of severity, such as a misdemeanor or nonviolent felony.

These findings are preliminary, and future researchers will certainly build on them. But as a first attempt to study the issue, the Times Union’s analysis suggests that as many as 80,000 people may have avoided jail incarceration due to cash bail because of the 2019–20 reforms and went on to pose no documented threat to public safety. (An opinion column in the New York Post cited the same data to argue that 43 percent of pretrial releases resulted in rearrest, but arrived at that conclusion by focusing on a small subset of just 4,062 cases.) The state’s data does not provide a point of comparison — i.e., are these rearrest rates higher or lower since bail reform’s enactment? But a dashboard maintained by the nonprofit New York City Criminal Justice Agency focusing on the percentage of people awaiting trial in the community and rearrested in a given month also appears to show little change in rearrest trends since 2019. A new report by New York City Comptroller Brad Lander cites CJA’s data to conclude that “the share of people awaiting trial in the community who are rearrested remained nearly identical before and after implementation of bail reforms.”

That means any attempt to link bail reform to rising crime should be evaluated skeptically. Indeed, some early arguments about the effects of bail reform have been directly disproven. In 2020, the New York City Police Department claimed that bail reform and recent jail releases had led to an increase in shootings. But according to a New York Post analysis, the NYPD’s own statistics proved otherwise. Between January and late June 2020, according to NYPD data reviewed by the Post, “just one person released under the statewide bail reform laws” had been charged with a shooting.
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Just another extremely shallow view of an important issue, by those desperately trying to divert attention from the GOP's absolute lack of progress in any area of American life.


Link: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/facts-bail-reform-and-crime-rates-new-york-state

Replies to: "I posted earlier that another suspect possessing 15,000 fentanyl pills in NYC was required to post"

  • I was told that rainbow fentanyl was “completely made up”. [LINK] - TampaIrish - 11:02pm 11/13/22 (18) [View All]
    • The threat to trick-or-treaters was the made up part, not the drug itself [NT] - Chris94 - 11:32am 11/14/22
      • Take it up with Lance. He’s the one who said it was completely “made up”. [LINK] - TampaIrish - 12:27pm 11/14/22
        • You are correct. My apologies for not using more precise language. - LanceHarbor - 1:19pm 11/14/22
          • It's the number one cause of death for 18-45. - iairishcheeks - 2:32pm 11/14/22
            • Then, perhaps, it should be talked about more seriously. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 3:47pm 11/14/22
              • I posted about it recently, doesn't seem like anyone cares. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 3:52pm 11/14/22
          • Dayton's Halloween basket? Obviously his/her parents vote Democrat. - NedoftheHill - 2:32pm 11/14/22
          • Thank you. Words matter. [NT] - TampaIrish - 1:34pm 11/14/22
    • I posted earlier that another suspect possessing 15,000 fentanyl pills in NYC was required to post [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 1:08am 11/14/22
      • Ty, some times you have to use common sense and quit posting links where people spin to distract - jray - 11:38am 11/14/22
        • jray, sometimes you have to do some "Thinking" instead of just "Reacting"...like in this article out [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 3:48pm 11/14/22
        • Ty has a severe case of confirmation bias. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 2:33pm 11/14/22
      • You know the author is attempting to lie to you when he switches from percentages to fractions. - Iggle - 7:11am 11/14/22
        • Ever heard of the "Pareto Principle"?...or the phrase "Perfect is the Enemy of Good"?...we're not - TyroneIrish - 3:52pm 11/14/22
    • Yeah, some of these guys are liars. - jabbadoody6 - 11:45pm 11/13/22
      • Lance won’t be back for a while. Last week was his time to pop in and drop some snarky comments. - TampaIrish - 7:56am 11/14/22
        • That guy makes me sick! [NT] - LanceManion - 1:20pm 11/14/22
        • Lance and Chris use the same tactic. - jabbadoody6 - 9:17am 11/14/22
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