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Let me help you understand what you either did not read, or cannot process...

Author: TyroneIrish (19801 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 1:04 pm on Nov 24, 2022
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before addressing your points, you need to understand that "Europe' is made up of several countries and not all of them act the same, however, most of those countries have agreed to fund a "Union" structure with several distinct missions...including 'Childhood Education', and a part of that involves programs that teach "Sex and Sexuality"...some countries pay no attention to this effort (e.g. the very conservative Catholic, Poland), while others (e.g. the more liberal, Netherlands) do.

It turns out that the Netherlands has excellent results when it comes to low rates of teenage pregnancies and STD infections compared to almost any other country in the world...which is a clear indication of more aware and more mature young adults...a very good outcome that everyone should want to see...and for decades they've begun their educational programs at a very young age...as emphasized in the link I provided...which again published your link.

Now, on to your misinformed and erroneous assertions...

>Please read the material I presented to you and then 'copy & paste' the section which you say has teachers addressing "masturbation" with 7 yr olds...pf course you won't find it, because it doesn't exist...and what also doesn't exist is any logic on your part...those 7 year olds are at least three to four grades away from puberty and could not possibly process such overt material...the whole concept of education...for any subject...is to make the teaching "Age Appropriate"...surely you can grasp that...and apply it to the subject of "Sex and Sexuality" (fingers crossed).

>The last part of your previous concern bleeds into your second...i.e. trusting teachers to do the right thing. Given that all accredited schools require their teachers to be "Certified" in the subjects they teach...English, Math, History, etc...they would need to be certified in Sex and Sexuality...again with 'Age Appropriate' lesson plans. Simply put, the vast majority of our teachers chose that profession because of their deep concern for the healthy development of children...so why would anyone not trust them in this subject, which is a vital one. Parents are already involved through PTAs, etc...and have input...but first, as in the European Union, there needs to be an appreciation of the need for "Age Appropriate" instruction...once that is established, and programs are reviewed, then "Trust" the teachers, while regularly reviewing the results, which already happens on every other subject.

>I agree that kids do get molested even in Europe, but not due to "Sex and Sexuality" education...which is why that same source you posted also promotes 'Comprehensive Sexuality Education' for all kids, so that they grow up understanding the need to respect others, etc...and...countries that embrace such learning (e.g. the Netherlands and Sweden) have excellent outcomes when it comes to sexual abuse of children...you got that?

Hopefully, you can also comprehend that the only reason I support "Sex and Sexuality" education for all kids, is that it has BEEN PROVEN to REDUCE the sexual abuse of children...and adults as they grow up. Unless you can prove otherwise, you are biting your own tail on this. , I

I see this disagreement as...(ME) believing that education of children on a vital subject to their development as well functioning adults is a good thing, and (YOU) wanting to keep those children from ever being exposed to the material in a caring, professional manner...thus leaving them to all the misinformation that is rampant all around them. btw, while many families do a good job in this area, it is abundantly clear that tens of millions of families are either incapable of doing the job, or are abusive themselves...in either case, society NEEDS schools to ensure every child is properly educated.

It appears that you just don't have enough faith in others, who have worked their whole lives for the betterment of children, that they will do the right thing...that's sad.

In short, I'm in support of those who are trying hard to help children...and any further slanderous suggestions by you that I am promoting abusive behavior will result in a call out from me...is that clear?


Replies to: "Let me help you understand what you either did not read, or cannot process..."

  • Remember when the Canadian govt froze the bank accounts of people that opposed them politically? - jabbadoody6 - 2:39pm 11/23/22 (69) [View All]
    • Fascists never see themselves for what they are. Never. Our Left doesn’t either. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:34am 11/24/22
      • Well, when you think the definition of "fascism" is "puts people in gulags..." [NT] - jabbadoody6 - 7:47am 11/24/22
        • I see that he has been at it again. I’ve put him on ignore. He appears to - BaronVonZemo - 8:04am 11/24/22
    • . [NT] [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 7:27pm 11/23/22
    • Canada didn't imprison anyone...no Gulag or Internment Camps...just a few hundred bank accounts [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 7:10pm 11/23/22
      • Holy crap. - jabbadoody6 - 7:16pm 11/23/22
        • Its been well established for quite some time that he is the most - ColeyO - 9:19pm 11/23/22
          • Indeed. He has zero credibility, and yet he keeps posting like he does. Very strange. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:09pm 11/23/22
            • You're just frustrated that I continually use credible references that back up what I post...you and - TyroneIrish - 11:52pm 11/23/22
              • "Reality" is that HCQ+ works. And reality is it's immature to refuse to read Dr. Risch's paper [NT] - MarkHarman - 8:34am 11/24/22
                • Mark, I like you...you're a fellow Domer, and you chose to be a professional in a sport that I love - TyroneIrish - 2:37pm 11/24/22
              • Now that is funny. I'm not sure a single one of your links has ever backed up your point. - NedoftheHill - 12:54am 11/24/22
                • LOL..the standard "I won't read your posts" defense...not very compelling, Ned... - TyroneIrish - 1:16am 11/24/22
                  • I read your post and your links and he is right… [NT] - Protagonist - 2:40am 11/24/22
                    • If you indeed read those posts and links, your next step is to explain why you disagree... - TyroneIrish - 2:24pm 11/24/22
        • Just take a breath, Jabba... - TyroneIrish - 7:44pm 11/23/22
          • You do support grooming. You want drag shows in preschools. - jakers - 9:45pm 11/23/22
            • Exhibit “A” [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 5:08am 11/24/22
              • Thanks for reminding us all about the time I called you out for being a filthy liar. - jabbadoody6 - 6:50am 11/24/22
                • Here's the thing, creepy creeperson - jabbadoody6 - 7:29am 11/24/22
                  • CreeperLarkin's cohort on this subject has acknowledged that 1 in 5 children in the EU - jabbadoody6 - 7:56am 11/24/22
                    • He's gone. Don't bother. [NT] - jakers - 8:59am 11/24/22
              • An opinion piece from the Washington Post. It must be true. Thanks for the laugh. [NT] - MuskyTommy - 6:35am 11/24/22
            • Not the 'Terms of Endearment' I was hoping for, but be that as it may, you and others are blinding [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 9:57pm 11/23/22
              • I don't need to be convinced that you're a pervert. Trust me. [NT] - jakers - 10:26pm 11/23/22
                • You and others are repeating the same nonsense that another ND alum has faced...she won't be [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 10:43pm 11/23/22
                  • Weird flex. Not surprising, though. You are a lonely old pervert. [NT] - jakers - 11:23pm 11/23/22
                    • Nice try, but the evidence is all on my side...every single post and link. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 11:33pm 11/23/22
              • Holy crap. You do defend grooming children for sex. WTF. Other Dems here proud of this poster? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:08pm 11/23/22
                • Connor is . A few weeks ago he said Tyrone was one of the best posters on here. [NT] - MuskyTommy - 10:53pm 11/23/22
                • Here's a publication from the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF)...an organization that has [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 10:37pm 11/23/22
                  • Another missed opportunity to disavow grooming. Quite a pattern of support you are building here. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:39pm 11/24/22
                    • And another attempt at disinformation by you... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 2:45pm 11/24/22
          • Bud - jabbadoody6 - 7:57pm 11/23/22
            • Here's the thing. The USA, Russia, China and every other Government in the world are... - fredyo - 8:47pm 11/23/22
              • I had no idea your fantasies were impinging on your real life decision making...please don't operate - TyroneIrish - 9:33pm 11/23/22
                • Fantasies? I'm part of the program, junior... - fredyo - 10:14pm 11/23/22
                  • I am not naive to the Leonard Leo's of the this country and their effect on SCOTUS, etc...or the - TyroneIrish - 10:55pm 11/23/22
                    • Giving up is your endemic. If it weren't for Mark, I would expose your trans man debacle. [NT] - fredyo - 11:21pm 11/23/22
                      • Go for it...I certainly have no intention of stopping you from making a fool of yourself...let's see - TyroneIrish - 11:42pm 11/23/22
                        • Documented? You produce evidence of absurdity every day! Hahahahhahahaahha. [NT] - fredyo - 2:29am 11/24/22
                          • Let's have just one...I'm waiting... [NT] - TyroneIrish - 2:53am 11/24/22
            • You are making statements without substance to back them up, Jabba... - TyroneIrish - 8:44pm 11/23/22
              • Nah, dawg. We aren't rehashing all this. I provided evidence in previous posts. - jabbadoody6 - 8:46pm 11/23/22
                • Ya' just can't change an ape's nature. [NT] - fredyo - 8:50pm 11/23/22
        • TyrannyIrish is gonna stick. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 7:42pm 11/23/22
          • Whatever works for you, Cheeks... [NT] - TyroneIrish - 7:45pm 11/23/22
            • Remember when you tried to pretend that Australia didn't collect people and put them in camps - jabbadoody6 - 8:08pm 11/23/22
              • Didn't we cover this somewhere else?...whatever...Australia required returning citizens to spend - TyroneIrish - 10:28pm 11/23/22
                • Here is another link you can ignore, perv. [NT] [LINK] - jabbadoody6 - 11:13pm 11/23/22
                  • The very same source that published your link, published this one that says this... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 2:04am 11/24/22
                    • Cool, so that means you find the statistics from that site to be credible. - jabbadoody6 - 7:07am 11/24/22
                      • Let me help you understand what you either did not read, or cannot process... - TyroneIrish - 1:04pm 11/24/22
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      • I did a persuasive argument in HS speech class on that very topic - jabbadoody6 - 6:37pm 11/23/22
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          • That movie was a novel concept with poor execution. [NT] - fredyo - 8:54pm 11/23/22
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    • Fascism, to libs, is anything they disagree with. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 3:53pm 11/23/22
      • Amen. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 5:45pm 11/23/22
    • No, how about you enlighten us, Stark. [NT] - jimbasil - 3:12pm 11/23/22
      • Now it's your turn to answer my question re: your gun control ideas [NT] [LINK] - jabbadoody6 - 3:18pm 11/23/22
      • Do you want me to send you down another rabbit hole of broken links or are you being serious? [NT] - jabbadoody6 - 3:16pm 11/23/22
        • He either thinks you are another poster, StarkRavingDad or iron man. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 6:30pm 11/23/22
          • Oh, is that what he's doing? - jabbadoody6 - 6:44pm 11/23/22
            • Stark used to have Tyrone in a constant state of denial and confusion by merely - ColeyO - 9:27pm 11/23/22
            • I think he forgot you used to post here. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 6:46pm 11/23/22
              • How in the hell is that possible? - jabbadoody6 - 7:05pm 11/23/22
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