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Hey Tyrone, as if on cue…even N95 masks were worthless.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)
Posted at 8:28 am on Feb 9, 2023
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Medical/surgical masks compared to no masks:

We included 12 trials (10 cluster‐RCTs) comparing medical/surgical masks versus no masks to prevent the spread of viral respiratory illness (two trials with healthcare workers and 10 in the community). Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of influenza‐like illness (ILI)/COVID‐19 like illness compared to not wearing masks (risk ratio (RR) 0.95, 95% confidence interval (CI) 0.84 to 1.09; 9 trials, 276,917 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence. Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza/SARS‐CoV‐2 compared to not wearing masks (RR 1.01, 95% CI 0.72 to 1.42; 6 trials, 13,919 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence). Harms were rarely measured and poorly reported (very low‐certainty evidence).

N95/P2 respirators compared to medical/surgical masks:

We pooled trials comparing N95/P2 respirators with medical/surgical masks (four in healthcare settings and one in a household setting). We are very uncertain on the effects of N95/P2 respirators compared with medical/surgical masks on the outcome of clinical respiratory illness (RR 0.70, 95% CI 0.45 to 1.10; 3 trials, 7779 participants; very low‐certainty evidence). N95/P2 respirators compared with medical/surgical masks may be effective for ILI (RR 0.82, 95% CI 0.66 to 1.03; 5 trials, 8407 participants; low‐certainty evidence). Evidence is limited by imprecision and heterogeneity for these subjective outcomes. The use of a N95/P2 respirators compared to medical/surgical masks probably makes little or no difference for the objective and more precise outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza infection (RR 1.10, 95% CI 0.90 to 1.34; 5 trials, 8407 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence). Restricting pooling to healthcare workers made no difference to the overall findings. Harms were poorly measured and reported, but discomfort wearing medical/surgical masks or N95/P2 respirators was mentioned in several studies (very low‐certainty evidence).

One previously reported ongoing RCT has now been published and observed that medical/surgical masks were non‐inferior to N95 respirators in a large study of 1009 healthcare workers in four countries providing direct care to COVID‐19 patients.


Link: https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub6/full

Replies to: "Hey Tyrone, as if on cue…even N95 masks were worthless."

  • Hey Tyrone, as if on cue…even N95 masks were worthless. [LINK] - Iggle - 8:28am 2/9/23 (29) [View All]
    • Here's another study conducted by Stanford/Yale and other fine institutions, which I actually posted [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 3:46pm 2/9/23
      • Wow from 2021… you don’t follow the science anymore? [NT] - Protagonist - 10:02pm 2/9/23
    • Really appreciate you bringing this front and center... apologies for taking time before responding, [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 3:37pm 2/9/23
      • I'll take a stab at rebutting this - MarkHarman - 8:59pm 2/9/23
        • Take your opinion to the New England Journal of Medicine...Yale U....Stanford U...WHO...CDC, etc. - TyroneIrish - 9:59pm 2/9/23
          • Until you man up and read Dr. Risch's paper, we can't have that conversation [NT] - MarkHarman - 1:07pm 2/10/23
    • He hasn't weighed in on this. Maybe first time he'll admit he was wrong [NT] - MarkHarman - 1:47pm 2/9/23
      • Oh please. He’s not capable of admitting he’s wrong. He’s waiting for direction from the spinners. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 3:29pm 2/9/23
    • How much money and resources were wasted on masks that turned out to be worthless? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:53am 2/9/23
      • How many fuckheads on this board claimed they were “following the science” while ignoring it? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:32am 2/9/23
        • This is a failure of science. I don't fault anyone for believing science. - iairishcheeks - 11:35am 2/9/23
          • No it isn’t. It is substitution of politics. No data supporting masks was given,&when we pointed it - BaronVonZemo - 11:59am 2/9/23
            • Fair enough. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 3:59pm 2/9/23
      • Not to mention all the CO2 released by mass producing them. - iairishcheeks - 11:01am 2/9/23
        • And pollution - the sea is full of them. Liberals being liberal. [NT] [IMAGE] - BaronVonZemo - 11:33am 2/9/23
        • I wonder how many respirators are gathering dust in government warehouses? - Iggle - 11:12am 2/9/23
          • Everytime I see Joe, I think of that stupid mask hanging off one ear in his commercials. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 11:33am 2/9/23
    • Looks like I know more than the dinner guests. Now be aware of predictable responses & consider.... - BaronVonZemo - 9:45am 2/9/23
      • It's amazing, Baron, how you can be 'Ignoring' me, yet be so deeply involved and concerned about my - TyroneIrish - 4:35pm 2/9/23
      • Contrary to what Ty thinks, it's obvious you know this stuff very, very well - MarkHarman - 10:11am 2/9/23
        • Not impugning Baron's knowledge in his Specialty...just his spreading of false and misleading info [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 6:01pm 2/9/23
        • It's amazing how much cleaner the board is without seeing the linkster's posts. You should - TampaIrish - 10:26am 2/9/23
        • I agree re Fauci,HCQ had a niche - that’s why Trump received it (which is 1/2 reason it was banned- - BaronVonZemo - 10:24am 2/9/23
    • But the masks do inform us on ones voting choices. It also lets the idiot wearing the mask - TampaIrish - 9:26am 2/9/23
    • I posted this yesterday, maybe with repetition it will sink in. - iairishcheeks - 9:05am 2/9/23
      • It very clearly reveals that there was not evidence to proceed in the opposite direction with masks - BaronVonZemo - 9:52am 2/9/23
      • But there was that case where 2 hair stylists didn't spread* covid that time! - Iggle - 9:15am 2/9/23
        • Oh, about that... - MarkHarman - 10:14am 2/9/23
    • Nonsense! They are as invaluable as AIDS or Breast Cancer ribbons. [NT] - Curly1918 - 9:05am 2/9/23
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