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Looks like I know more than the dinner guests. Now be aware of predictable responses & consider....

Author: BaronVonZemo (58842 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 9:45 am on Feb 9, 2023
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Predictable responses will be to latch on to any weakness of the report in order to cling to anything to avoid embarrassemtn for being so horribly wrong and being exposed as having no real knowledge. The weaknesses of all studies are included in the body of the text so even a Google Doc can list them.

But remember....and this is key.....the burden of proof to wear masks in this setting is on the people pushing to impose mask wearing. And it should be noted that there was no strong evidence to do so. There NEVER was such evidence....not now nor back in 2020. This Cochrane Review shows it.

The key portion from your post:
"We included 12 trials (10 cluster‐RCTs) comparing medical/surgical masks versus no masks to prevent the spread of viral respiratory illness (two trials with healthcare workers and 10 in the community). Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of influenza‐like illness (ILI)/COVID‐19 like illness compared to not wearing masks (risk ratio (RR) 0.95, 95% confidence interval (CI) 0.84 to 1.09; 9 trials, 276,917 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence."

Moderate certainty level is quite strong from a Cochrane review in general, and specifically since there are so many variables in reporting and differing criteria between studies. BUT THE VERY CLEAR POINT IS THAT THERE WAS NEVER THE DATA TO SUPPORT THIS MASSIVELY INVASIVE IMPOSITION OF MASK WEARING ON THE PUBLIC - NOT NOW AND NOT BACK THEN. Fauci lied through his teeth as I have been saying. He initially admitted what he knew to be true before a meeting at the WH with BidenHandlers in late March 2020...then he completely changed his tune for political reasons. The medical community that spoke up was squelched.


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Replies to: "Looks like I know more than the dinner guests. Now be aware of predictable responses & consider...."

  • Hey Tyrone, as if on cue…even N95 masks were worthless. [LINK] - Iggle - 8:28am 2/9/23 (29) [View All]
    • Here's another study conducted by Stanford/Yale and other fine institutions, which I actually posted [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 3:46pm 2/9/23
      • Wow from 2021… you don’t follow the science anymore? [NT] - Protagonist - 10:02pm 2/9/23
    • Really appreciate you bringing this front and center... apologies for taking time before responding, [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 3:37pm 2/9/23
      • I'll take a stab at rebutting this - MarkHarman - 8:59pm 2/9/23
        • Take your opinion to the New England Journal of Medicine...Yale U....Stanford U...WHO...CDC, etc. - TyroneIrish - 9:59pm 2/9/23
          • Until you man up and read Dr. Risch's paper, we can't have that conversation [NT] - MarkHarman - 1:07pm 2/10/23
    • He hasn't weighed in on this. Maybe first time he'll admit he was wrong [NT] - MarkHarman - 1:47pm 2/9/23
      • Oh please. He’s not capable of admitting he’s wrong. He’s waiting for direction from the spinners. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 3:29pm 2/9/23
    • How much money and resources were wasted on masks that turned out to be worthless? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:53am 2/9/23
      • How many fuckheads on this board claimed they were “following the science” while ignoring it? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:32am 2/9/23
        • This is a failure of science. I don't fault anyone for believing science. - iairishcheeks - 11:35am 2/9/23
          • No it isn’t. It is substitution of politics. No data supporting masks was given,&when we pointed it - BaronVonZemo - 11:59am 2/9/23
            • Fair enough. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 3:59pm 2/9/23
      • Not to mention all the CO2 released by mass producing them. - iairishcheeks - 11:01am 2/9/23
        • And pollution - the sea is full of them. Liberals being liberal. [NT] [IMAGE] - BaronVonZemo - 11:33am 2/9/23
        • I wonder how many respirators are gathering dust in government warehouses? - Iggle - 11:12am 2/9/23
          • Everytime I see Joe, I think of that stupid mask hanging off one ear in his commercials. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 11:33am 2/9/23
    • Looks like I know more than the dinner guests. Now be aware of predictable responses & consider.... - BaronVonZemo - 9:45am 2/9/23
      • It's amazing, Baron, how you can be 'Ignoring' me, yet be so deeply involved and concerned about my - TyroneIrish - 4:35pm 2/9/23
      • Contrary to what Ty thinks, it's obvious you know this stuff very, very well - MarkHarman - 10:11am 2/9/23
        • Not impugning Baron's knowledge in his Specialty...just his spreading of false and misleading info [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 6:01pm 2/9/23
        • It's amazing how much cleaner the board is without seeing the linkster's posts. You should - TampaIrish - 10:26am 2/9/23
        • I agree re Fauci,HCQ had a niche - that’s why Trump received it (which is 1/2 reason it was banned- - BaronVonZemo - 10:24am 2/9/23
    • But the masks do inform us on ones voting choices. It also lets the idiot wearing the mask - TampaIrish - 9:26am 2/9/23
    • I posted this yesterday, maybe with repetition it will sink in. - iairishcheeks - 9:05am 2/9/23
      • It very clearly reveals that there was not evidence to proceed in the opposite direction with masks - BaronVonZemo - 9:52am 2/9/23
      • But there was that case where 2 hair stylists didn't spread* covid that time! - Iggle - 9:15am 2/9/23
        • Oh, about that... - MarkHarman - 10:14am 2/9/23
    • Nonsense! They are as invaluable as AIDS or Breast Cancer ribbons. [NT] - Curly1918 - 9:05am 2/9/23
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