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Shall I first accept your hijack of the thread as an acknowledgement that Fauci was caught lying?

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63752 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 7:08 am on Jun 5, 2021
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...a few quick points before going to bed:

1) I had merely listed from memory a timeline of my discussions with Jim on HCQ when I realized that i was allowing him to be lazy since we have discussed this ad nauseum already. I decided that there was no point in repeating myself, and it was best not to encourage laziness. Thus, I referred him to the "Search" function.

2) Your unprofessional blog "article" reads like a teenager sneering rant. Aside from being well out of date now, it was quite wrong back them. David Gorski is well know for is "blogs", and i suggest you research him a bit before you decide to use him as your expert below
-It wrongly dismisses as an "outlier", the only completed prospective, randomized study with power on HCQ at the time.
-It further fails to addresses my point wrt HCQ at the time of the article...I was not saying in July 2020 that HCQ should be frontline treatment for COVID, I was instead arguing that it should be allowed as an off label treatment option - just as always has been done when other treatment options are not available or exhausted. There was plenty of evidence of safety, and enough study evidence to suggest at that time that HCQ was a reasonable off label option as described, particularly if the physician had explained the risks and benefits with the patient. I wanted the patient to be able to make this decision if they wanted - just as a cancer patient might make such a decision when other options prove unsuccessful. I also was arguing at that time against the false reports of scientific evidence that the drug was unsafe in the doses used (those were media driven ,isinterpretaion of data that used doses of HCQ FAR higher than recommended here in the US.
-since the time of this study, it has become clear that HCQ has a role in treating COVID patients in selected setting when combined with azithromycin and zinc, and I have linked this to you in the past. It MOST certainly should NEVER have been banned from off label use. Again, with what we know now, it clearly does have a role (in fact the very setting that Donald Trump found himself in). Trump was wrong in how he presented HCQ, but he was correct that it was a help in his setting. Hats off to his Notre Dame doctor who prescribed it to him.

Finally, that isn't an actual journal nor an actual study. It is an unprofessional opinion blog written with extreme bias and undoubtedly political agenda - and done so back in July 2020.


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Replies to: “Shall I first accept your hijack of the thread as an acknowledgement that Fauci was caught lying?”

  • Well,Fauci’s gotten everything wrong to start so far,why stop now?He approved 800k to Wuhan,not 600k [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 3:48am 6/5/21 (21) [View All]
    • It has been breathtaking watching the cult swarm upon Tony Fauci. - conorlarkin - 10:16am 6/5/21
      • Liberalism Rule #1: Accuse others of that which you are (cult)Wonder why High Sparrow is under fire. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 6:50pm 6/5/21
      • I'll be as fair as I can. He was dealt with a bad virus that no one knew how to handle and yet he - THEISMANCARR - 6:36pm 6/5/21
      • Delete [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 6:27pm 6/5/21
      • He's made some mistakes. [NT] [IMAGE] - iairishcheeks - 5:09pm 6/5/21
    • Fauci is a modern day Louis Pasteur, his research will solve global warming [NT] - holybull101 - 5:47am 6/5/21
      • The ultra Left will defend their High Sparrow to their death. Why?.... - BaronVonZemo - 7:22am 6/5/21
    • The CDC provides over $2B in funding to more than 40 nations (including China) in order to [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 5:22am 6/5/21
      • Wow! 2B in 40 countries. No way CDC head could be expected to remember 800k he approved for research - BaronVonZemo - 6:06am 6/5/21
        • Way to miss the point...Congress has been holding hearings on CDC funding for a long time, and they - TyroneIrish - 6:25am 6/5/21
          • Ty you are a disinformation operative who parrots nonsense [NT] - eftg1 - 1:57am 6/6/21
          • You used an excuse of "large money numbers" to excuse Fauci's "mistake". I laughed at it. - BaronVonZemo - 7:15am 6/5/21
    • Well let’s talk about what you and FOX TV have gotten right - nothing. - jimbasil - 5:07am 6/5/21
      • Oh James. He lied again (unless you think he’s incompetent). Regarding HCQ.... - BaronVonZemo - 5:46am 6/5/21
        • Finding it tough to keep your distortions straight tonight, Doc? [NT] - ND521 - 6:46am 6/5/21
        • Regarding HCQ...wish you had kept your pre-edit version, but nonetheless, I'd like to see your [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 6:07am 6/5/21
          • Shall I first accept your hijack of the thread as an acknowledgement that Fauci was caught lying? [IMAGE] - BaronVonZemo - 7:08am 6/5/21
            • In response... - TyroneIrish - 7:48pm 6/5/21
    • Another post full of half-truths and distortion, Dr. Scrofulous? [NT] - ND521 - 4:35am 6/5/21
      • Dr.Fakey deadender ND521 [NT] - eftg1 - 4:52am 6/5/21
      • Evolving science changed $600k to $800k,it wasn’t Fauci’s fault! Perhaps he assumed Biden inflation? [IMAGE] - BaronVonZemo - 4:48am 6/5/21

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