I get that you don't like the poll results...but "The Catholic Church" is not unified against the

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I get that you don't like the poll results...but "The Catholic Church" is not unified against the

Author: TyroneIrish (20615 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:35 pm on Jun 17, 2021

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LGBTQ community...that is factual, and in fact there is a near 2:1 preference by people who call themselves Catholic for not discriminating against them.... So what we actually have here is a "splinter group" of the Catholic Church trying to represent what that religion believes...this sort of activism throws the whole "religious liberty" idea into question...the following is hyperbole, but what stops every Tom, Dick or Harry from declaring themselves leaders of a Church and making rules that violate everyone else's freedoms?...and when challenged, they run to the U.S. Supreme Court for protection...utter chaos ensues.

For every National Catholic Register article against the LGBTQ community, there is another from the National Catholic Reporter in sympathy with them...this is not settled and likely will never be completely within the Catholic Church, but the trend is moving in the direction of inclusion and acceptance...probably to the point where the Vatican will eventually make a pronouncement to that effect...prepare yourself.

Replies to: "I get that you don't like the poll results...but "The Catholic Church" is not unified against the"

Unanimous. - Curly1918 - 12:10pm 6/17/21 (28) [View All]
- Victory #1 9-0. Clear message to LGTBQ et al - “Back off religious rights”. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 3:05pm 6/17/21
  - Somewhere Chris is weeping uncontrollably, but still hoping Juneteenth is - ColeyO - 4:56pm 6/17/21
    - You can sit this one out if you wish...or join in with your thoughts. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 5:36pm 6/17/21
      - News flash: I don't need your permission for anything., so pi** off [NT] - ColeyO - 6:00pm 6/17/21
        Don't get so upset...just inviting you to join in on this topic. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 8:50pm 6/17/21
  - You should temper your enthusiasm over this ruling...the issue of "Gay Rights" is by no means [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 4:49pm 6/17/21
    - Do you categorize all people or just the gay ones? "those people" I am positive you just hurt - IrishMac - 5:44pm 6/17/21
      - Thank you for that...we're talking about "People" here, who have a distinguishing characteristic. - TyroneIrish - 8:57pm 6/17/21
        No one has suggested people with that "distinguishing characteristic" don't have human rights. - NedoftheHill - 9:42pm 6/17/21
    - Catholics are accepting of "those people." Only the choices some people make are problematic. - NedoftheHill - 5:09pm 6/17/21
      - It's not like all those people surveyed over decades are oblivious to the issues...they fully - TyroneIrish - 5:19pm 6/17/21
        Your point is unclear. Can you elaborate? Why do I "need to deal with" polls on religious belief? - NedoftheHill - 5:53pm 6/17/21
        A better phrasing (by me) would have been "you should...", but the message is still the same, the [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 9:35pm 6/17/21
        Your link-src on Doctrine is "not suitable nor eligible to teach Catholic theology" per JPII. Nice. - NedoftheHill - 10:52pm 6/17/21
        If our Pope can say "Who am I to judge" when it comes to gays, why can't I dissent from current - TyroneIrish - 1:01am 6/18/21
        The Pope won't judge people. Not his role. He does judge doctrine & through doctrine, behavior. - NedoftheHill - 11:19pm 6/20/21
        
        there's no debate, it is settled [NT] - Hank the Tank - 5:52pm 6/17/21
      - Exactly. Polls are only as good as the question asked. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 5:11pm 6/17/21
    - The issue of gay rights trumping religious rights has most certainly been clarified - BaronVonZemo - 4:55pm 6/17/21
      - I get that you don't like the poll results...but "The Catholic Church" is not unified against the - TyroneIrish - 5:35pm 6/17/21
        I assume you put "The Catholic Church" in quotes so you can blur some lines somewhere? - NedoftheHill - 6:09pm 6/17/21
        The quotation marks are used to emphasize that there is no consensus within the Church on the issue - TyroneIrish - 9:55pm 6/17/21
        All of those statements are either inaccurate or irrelevent. - NedoftheHill - 11:02pm 6/17/21
        Take a closer look at my post)s)...I said that the Church's stand on the LGBTQ community "is" - TyroneIrish - 12:43am 6/18/21
        
        Very nicely said. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:08pm 6/17/21
        
        The Catholic Church is not unified against the, but they are of a libleral slant [NT] - Hank the Tank - 5:55pm 6/17/21
        
        Welcome to the all appeasing progressives of today's society. - IrishMac - 5:47pm 6/17/21
        "Things were so much easier when..."...that IMO typifies the non-progressive view...not unlike the - TyroneIrish - 10:27pm 6/17/21