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Author: TyroneIrish (21769 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:35 pm on Jun 17, 2021

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considered opinion of a majority of Catholics is one of acceptance for the LGBTQ community...and that opinion matters, because Church "Doctrine" is not "Dogma"...it is a 'current' teaching, and doctrines/teachings have been changed before...(see following link)

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/history-shows-the-church-has-changed-its-moral-teachings-1.437230

I submit that such a process is underway as we speak with regard to the LGBTQ issue, and the polls bear that out. Pope Francis has shown that even the highest levels of the Catholic Church can be open to a new doctrinal teaching. It won't happen tomorrow, for sure, but don't be surprised if the tide of public opinion doesn't win out eventually. Guaranteed, some members of the Church will be unhappy...hopefully, they will see the 'goodness' in that teaching...

BTW, surprisingly, even the Southern Baptists have heard the call to a more progressive view and elected leadership that reflects that perspective....they are human beings too, so why can't the Catholic Church go in that direction?

Link: https://www.hrc.org/resources/stances-of-faiths-on-lgbt-issues-roman-catholic-church

Replies to: "A better phrasing (by me) would have been "you should...", but the message is still the same, the"

Unanimous. - Curly1918 - 12:10pm 6/17/21 (28) [View All]
- Victory #1 9-0. Clear message to LGTBQ et al - “Back off religious rights”. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 3:05pm 6/17/21
  - Somewhere Chris is weeping uncontrollably, but still hoping Juneteenth is - ColeyO - 4:56pm 6/17/21
    - You can sit this one out if you wish...or join in with your thoughts. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 5:36pm 6/17/21
      - News flash: I don't need your permission for anything., so pi** off [NT] - ColeyO - 6:00pm 6/17/21
        Don't get so upset...just inviting you to join in on this topic. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 8:50pm 6/17/21
  - You should temper your enthusiasm over this ruling...the issue of "Gay Rights" is by no means [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 4:49pm 6/17/21
    - Do you categorize all people or just the gay ones? "those people" I am positive you just hurt - IrishMac - 5:44pm 6/17/21
      - Thank you for that...we're talking about "People" here, who have a distinguishing characteristic. - TyroneIrish - 8:57pm 6/17/21
        No one has suggested people with that "distinguishing characteristic" don't have human rights. - NedoftheHill - 9:42pm 6/17/21
    - Catholics are accepting of "those people." Only the choices some people make are problematic. - NedoftheHill - 5:09pm 6/17/21
      - It's not like all those people surveyed over decades are oblivious to the issues...they fully - TyroneIrish - 5:19pm 6/17/21
        Your point is unclear. Can you elaborate? Why do I "need to deal with" polls on religious belief? - NedoftheHill - 5:53pm 6/17/21
        A better phrasing (by me) would have been "you should...", but the message is still the same, the [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 9:35pm 6/17/21
        Your link-src on Doctrine is "not suitable nor eligible to teach Catholic theology" per JPII. Nice. - NedoftheHill - 10:52pm 6/17/21
        If our Pope can say "Who am I to judge" when it comes to gays, why can't I dissent from current - TyroneIrish - 1:01am 6/18/21
        The Pope won't judge people. Not his role. He does judge doctrine & through doctrine, behavior. - NedoftheHill - 11:19pm 6/20/21
        
        there's no debate, it is settled [NT] - Hank the Tank - 5:52pm 6/17/21
      - Exactly. Polls are only as good as the question asked. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 5:11pm 6/17/21
    - The issue of gay rights trumping religious rights has most certainly been clarified - BaronVonZemo - 4:55pm 6/17/21
      - I get that you don't like the poll results...but "The Catholic Church" is not unified against the - TyroneIrish - 5:35pm 6/17/21
        I assume you put "The Catholic Church" in quotes so you can blur some lines somewhere? - NedoftheHill - 6:09pm 6/17/21
        The quotation marks are used to emphasize that there is no consensus within the Church on the issue - TyroneIrish - 9:55pm 6/17/21
        All of those statements are either inaccurate or irrelevent. - NedoftheHill - 11:02pm 6/17/21
        Take a closer look at my post)s)...I said that the Church's stand on the LGBTQ community "is" - TyroneIrish - 12:43am 6/18/21
        
        Very nicely said. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:08pm 6/17/21
        
        The Catholic Church is not unified against the, but they are of a libleral slant [NT] - Hank the Tank - 5:55pm 6/17/21
        
        Welcome to the all appeasing progressives of today's society. - IrishMac - 5:47pm 6/17/21
        "Things were so much easier when..."...that IMO typifies the non-progressive view...not unlike the - TyroneIrish - 10:27pm 6/17/21