Stick to the issue...read what Donna De Varona has to say about it...in essence, she's advocating

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Stick to the issue...read what Donna De Varona has to say about it...in essence, she's advocating

Author: TyroneIrish (20460 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:48 pm on Apr 15, 2024

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for separate competitions in cases where there is no, or insufficient, testosterone suppression...but feel free to get your BP elevated over me as well, if you wish...

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/04/15/transgender-athletes-womens-sports-title-ix/

Replies to: "Stick to the issue...read what Donna De Varona has to say about it...in essence, she's advocating"

Can someone offer a defense for THIS? [LINK] - Curly1918 - 12:59pm 4/15/24 (78) [View All]
- Yeah, I consider this akin to doping in athletics. Should not be allowed. [NT] - Hibakusha - 10:23am 4/16/24
- Chris, Frank and Domer endorse this. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 2:49pm 4/15/24
  - Endorse what? Trans athletes with a biological advantage participating in women’s events? - Frank L - 3:58pm 4/15/24
    - you have no issue calling anyone that voted for Trump a cultist. Since you voted for Biden, I get - WestCoastIrishFan - 5:56pm 4/15/24
      - I never said anyone that has voted for Orange is a cultist. - Frank L - 6:19pm 4/15/24
        I will say this... - NedoftheHill - 8:20pm 4/15/24
        "Kids" don't get Gender Surgery...they get reversible puberty blockers...IF deemed appropriate...as [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 11:15pm 4/15/24
        
        Very well said - WoodstockIrish - 10:31pm 4/15/24
        Agreed. Easy call. (It's an "easy call" b/c of the Left, but they don't see they're doing it to... - NedoftheHill - 11:18pm 4/15/24
        See I think it’s an easy call the other way. Orange is completely unfit morally, temperament wise, - Frank L - 11:29pm 4/15/24
        Body of work - WoodstockIrish - 7:52am 4/16/24
        You need to watch the State of the Union speech…JB’s ad hoc jousting - TyroneIrish - 10:08am 4/16/24
        
        I think the GOP and the DNC are driving the Ford Constitution towards the cliff. - NedoftheHill - 11:47pm 4/15/24
        A multitude of former Cabinet members, Aides and Congressional Leaders saw DJT perform already.... - TyroneIrish - 12:17am 4/16/24
        
        I have more than a few friends that feel the same way which is why I don’t lump all into that - Frank L - 8:32pm 4/15/24
    - What’s the term?…oh yeah, he ain’t a bag of brains. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 4:18pm 4/15/24
- Why is it not empathy to encourage these people to seek help instead of acting out? - Curly1918 - 2:14pm 4/15/24
  - Because the Alphabet Mafia has aggressively claimed them as part of their "community." - jakers - 3:52pm 4/15/24
    - This actually makes perfect sense. They are all this way for the same reason. [NT] - Curly1918 - 4:24pm 4/15/24
  - They are all insane in need of treatment. [NT] - PaND - 2:29pm 4/15/24
    - And the Left denies that treatment. Shameful. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:34pm 4/15/24
      - It is, the people who defend this crap have a lot of blame here also. [NT] - PaND - 2:35pm 4/15/24
- Perverted? [NT] - ColeyO - 1:49pm 4/15/24
- Nope. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:35pm 4/15/24
- I cannot.Some of the worst running form I have ever seen, but they still won. [NT] - LanceManion - 1:22pm 4/15/24
  - They lost. He won. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:32pm 4/15/24
    - In this case, he is "they" and the women are the "she." [NT] - LanceManion - 3:25pm 4/15/24
      - Makes perfect sense...to any person who has difficulty perceiving reality. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:27pm 4/15/24
        This is true. [NT] - LanceManion - 4:28pm 4/15/24
- I agree with Donna De Varona's perspective on this issue...not just for swimming, but all sports [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 1:21pm 4/15/24
  - Except it's not actually complicated: compete as the sex assigned at birth. - iairishcheeks - 3:21pm 4/15/24
    - He believes that a man in a dress is a woman. [NT] - PaND - 3:37pm 4/15/24
    - Read more...especially what Donna De Varona has to say about this... - TyroneIrish - 3:29pm 4/15/24
      - Why do you keep repeating this? De Varona says it's "nuanced" and "complicated"... - TakethetrainKnute - 4:30pm 4/15/24
        It's okay to read what others have to say...it's call "Critical Thinking"...don't be afraid to be - TyroneIrish - 5:26pm 4/15/24
        We have the Special Olympics, we can have the Trans Olympics as well (dominated by men). - iairishcheeks - 5:49pm 4/15/24
        Can people who erroneously but strongly believe they're handicapped compete in the Special Olympics? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 6:52pm 4/15/24
        
        I agree with Ms De Varona's position...read what she has to say...and she definitely is not - TyroneIrish - 6:20pm 4/15/24
        This is not even what's good for trans people, that's the pathological aspect. - iairishcheeks - 1:12am 4/16/24
        Can you be a bit more vague?...how about citing Ms De Varona's statements and commenting on them. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 11:17am 4/16/24
        How about some critical thinking on your part. - iairishcheeks - 1:06pm 4/16/24
        Any hatred is due to a lack of understanding and empathy...read more about the causes of GD - TyroneIrish - 7:42pm 4/16/24
        You're literally too stupid to argue with. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 8:11pm 4/16/24
        
        Nonsensical response per usual. "Trans people are people". I addressed what De Varona had to say - TakethetrainKnute - 5:47pm 4/15/24
        This is beginning to get exasperating...Ms De Varona...AND myself...agree that allowing ALL Trans - TyroneIrish - 5:57pm 4/15/24
        Beginning? Among other things you are misrepresenting Ms. de Varona's position as it would relate - TakethetrainKnute - 6:20pm 4/15/24
        You're not 'listening'...i've said repeatedly that I agree with Ms De Varona's position...which you - TyroneIrish - 7:14pm 4/15/24
        You are a vortex of wasted time. Saying it's "complicated" and discussing research on Gender - TakethetrainKnute - 7:48pm 4/15/24
        Don't forget that I'm repeating the words of an Olympic Swimming Champion who is all-in on seeing - TyroneIrish - 12:54am 4/16/24
        Yawn. No one has forgotten that you're repeating de Varona's position...without fully accounting - TakethetrainKnute - 9:02am 4/16/24
        If you'd read my posts you'd know that I do not support allowing trans women to compete - TyroneIrish - 11:38am 4/16/24
        And now we arrive at your real agenda, unsurprisingly. - jakers - 2:12pm 4/16/24
        
        It's only complicated because you're making it complicated. - iairishcheeks - 6:01pm 4/15/24
        Here's an overview of some of the research that has been conducted wrt Gender Dysphoria... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 6:59pm 4/15/24
        
        You're ignoring a great deal of research that forms the basis for the current diagnosis and - TyroneIrish - 6:10pm 4/15/24
      - No thanks, I believe in science. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 3:32pm 4/15/24
        Then you'll appreciate the opinion of true scientific professionals on this issue [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 3:44pm 4/15/24
        Does this have something at all to do with competitive fairness? You, of course, know the answer. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 4:03pm 4/15/24
        That is the point. There is a clear biological advantage. - Frank L - 4:23pm 4/15/24
  - If someone tells you they can see with their ears and hear with their eyes is that mental illness? - Curly1918 - 2:18pm 4/15/24
    - The same professionals who treated you have developed protocols for Gender Dysphoria... - TyroneIrish - 3:32pm 4/15/24
      - The modern psychiatric industry is in denial of the etiology of mental illness. - Curly1918 - 4:29pm 4/15/24
        Why should anyone take your opinion, as opposed to dedicated and caring professionals? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 6:05pm 4/15/24
  - Have you, personally, ever competed at anything at a high level? - Hensou - 1:33pm 4/15/24
    - I'm sure jimbasil has an opening as relief - ColeyO - 1:59pm 4/15/24
    - Stick to the issue...read what Donna De Varona has to say about it...in essence, she's advocating [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 1:48pm 4/15/24
      - Stick to the issue? The issue is whether biological males should compete in women's Track and Field - Hensou - 2:14pm 4/15/24
        It's not about me...it's about Trans Athletes...read what Donna De Varona has to say...as well as - TyroneIrish - 3:35pm 4/15/24
        The psychological issue does not remove the biological advantage, [NT] - Hensou - 3:44pm 4/15/24
        Once more...read what she has to say...you'll learn stuff you currently are unaware of... - TyroneIrish - 6:17pm 4/15/24
        I have read it you condescending fool. She refutes nothing I said. [NT] - Hensou - 7:39pm 4/15/24
        She...and I...agree that without much better screening, Trans athletes should not be competing with - TyroneIrish - 11:25pm 4/15/24
        Donna and you are both quacks on this issue. - Hensou - 7:13am 4/16/24
        From your lips to God's ear...thanks for sharing your thoughts. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 11:43am 4/16/24
- We're told that this isn't that big of a deal. It's not happening all that much. [NT] - TampaIrish - 1:18pm 4/15/24
- Every Democrat voted for that. [NT] - Cole - 1:04pm 4/15/24
  - "Hey, they're not perfect". [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 1:54pm 4/15/24
    - " there are some good people" [NT] - ColeyO - 2:01pm 4/15/24