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I am no COVID denier nor am I an anti-vaxxer

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 4:30 pm on Dec 15, 2024
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I would like to answer this now, but am unable to time wise do it Justice.

Nutshell:
The masks, social distancing, and shut down were BS. There was never scientific justification for it, and I said so.
I encouraged the vaccine for adults and those at risk regardless of age. There was no good data to ever say that healthy young children should get it (they had a higher risk from the vaccine than the COVID). There was never any data at all to suggest that the vaccine prevented spread but authorities lied to us all and used that false claim as a reason to FORCE people to get the vaccine (or lose their livelihood which gave them no choice).
I believe in the vaccine in the proper patient population, but I NEVER approve of coercion being used on anyone to get a shot that they don’t want….that is ASSAULT.

The medical community was mislead by officials, the country was intentionally feared with manipulated statistics (ex # of those who died FROM COVID. Vs # of those who died WITH COVID) and the appointment of politically selected people to re review charts and change diagnoses that the treating Dr’s made in order to juice numbers.

Fauci……he knew better….he even said so in a 60 Minutes interview before the politics became involved.

COVID is no joke, but it got used to persist with a SHUT DOWN long after it was known to be unnecessary because provided political opportunity for the Left.

Regarding what I would have done what we have always done and what Sweden did (and was saying that also).
Isolate the sick, not the healthy. No Shut Down past the first month or two to “blunt the curve” to prevent overwhelming hospitals.
Vaccine recommended for all adults and high risk people - but not forced on anyone.
No school closings past the “blunting of the curve”, no healthy general population mask wearing (placebos), no social distancing,
No false claims about the vaccine - just say….”we really aren’t sure, so we are going to be cautious about [insert whatever related topic] rather than lying.
No false statistics….same standards for all reporting and no changing diagnoses to fit a political need.

In other words….handle it much like we did H1N1.

I won’t even get into the data that has come out on PAXLOVID right now, but remove Pharma from such influence in the FDA CDC and NIH.


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Replies to: "I am no COVID denier nor am I an anti-vaxxer"

  • Horrifying, isn't it? Posting it per Elon's request. This explains why the left became warmongers [LINK] - Eli - 2:51pm 12/15/24 (21) [View All]
    • DEM efforts to maintain power have nothing to do with warmongering - Curly1918 - 6:07pm 12/15/24
      • BTW you mischaracterized cold war and Reagan's anti-communist strategy - Eli - 8:10pm 12/15/24
        • As your ideological hero John Mearsheimer wrote in The Tragedy of Great Power Politics, - Curly1918 - 8:46am 12/16/24
      • Traditionally R was peace mongering until W. D got us into WW I, II, Korean war, Vietnam War - Eli - 7:26pm 12/15/24
        • The best way to avoid war is to make the cost too high for our enemies AND... [LINK] - Curly1918 - 8:09am 12/16/24
        • Bob Dole on warmongering D party during VP debate 1976. [NT] [LINK] - Eli - 7:31pm 12/15/24
    • A health crisis offered the Left their best opportunity for taking control. And they magnified it w/ - BaronVonZemo - 4:00pm 12/15/24
      • Honest question..: - Domer From Hell - 4:07pm 12/15/24
        • I am no COVID denier nor am I an anti-vaxxer - BaronVonZemo - 4:30pm 12/15/24
          • I like your solution… - Domer From Hell - 4:46pm 12/15/24
            • Don't be misled by Baron...here's the truth (in bold text) vis-a-vis his misinformation and outright - TyroneIrish - 8:40pm 12/15/24
              • As usual, your post is full of lies. - jakers - 10:35pm 12/15/24
                • I included the phrase "...keep public service functions operating..", which covers many government [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 1:13am 12/16/24
                  • Hilarious word games. - jakers - 3:59pm 12/16/24
              • Your post is full of misconceptions. You're not a doctor, nor do you understand the science - MarkHarman - 10:18pm 12/15/24
                • My responses...(in bold text)... - TyroneIrish - 2:00am 12/16/24
                  • Then let me talk to your vaunted ID doctor about HCQ+ - MarkHarman - 2:36pm 12/16/24
                    • Go for it. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 12:29am 12/19/24
                • Well said! [NT] - jray - 11:00pm 12/15/24
            • Thnx-soc dist did NOT matter and Fauci admitted under oath that they simply made up the number 6 ft [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 7:03pm 12/15/24
    • What a hypocrite. You worship a warmonger and you praise autocrats worldwide… - Domer From Hell - 3:43pm 12/15/24
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