they’ve lost 4 oblasts, 1m men, and billions of dollars, and could’ve avoided it all via the deal brokered in Turkey.
I think it is the greatest foreign policy failure of our lifetime that they did not strike a peace deal and instead chose the war.
Replies to: "The Administration now defines success as having “stood up to Putin” even though"
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- The Administration now defines success as having “stood up to Putin” even though - Cole - 7:50pm 12/19/24
- There was no viable peace deal. Stop being a fool. [NT]
- Frank L - 8:29pm 12/19/24
- He knows that, but he’s too much of an idiot to admit it. He still thinks… - Domer From Hell - 8:50pm 12/19/24
- The head of NATO said there was a peace deal, and that the West rejected it. [NT]
- Cole - 9:07pm 12/19/24
- We’ve discussed the peace deal plenty of times… - Domer From Hell - 9:19pm 12/19/24
- Virtually any peace deal would have been better than this catastrophe. [NT]
- Cole - 9:38pm 12/19/24
- Not to the Ukrainians who don’t want to be absorbed or a vassal puppet state to Putin. - Frank L - 10:02pm 12/19/24
- No, he’d assimilate and join the invading force. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 10:03pm 12/19/24
- He wasn’t in a C-141, destination Panama. Good thing that some like you were. [NT]
- Frank L - 10:07pm 12/19/24
- He doesn’t have the chest to put it all on the line. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 10:13pm 12/19/24
- I don’t know if I would either. But I appreciate those who did/do. [NT] - Frank L - 10:14pm 12/19/24
- He doesn’t have the chest to put it all on the line. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 10:13pm 12/19/24
- He wasn’t in a C-141, destination Panama. Good thing that some like you were. [NT]
- Frank L - 10:07pm 12/19/24
- No, he’d assimilate and join the invading force. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 10:03pm 12/19/24
- Not to the Ukrainians who don’t want to be absorbed or a vassal puppet state to Putin. - Frank L - 10:02pm 12/19/24
- Virtually any peace deal would have been better than this catastrophe. [NT]
- Cole - 9:38pm 12/19/24
- A peace deal…..with Putin? Yeah right, not worth the paper it would be printed on. [NT] - Frank L - 9:08pm 12/19/24
- We’ve discussed the peace deal plenty of times… - Domer From Hell - 9:19pm 12/19/24
- The head of NATO said there was a peace deal, and that the West rejected it. [NT]
- Cole - 9:07pm 12/19/24
- He knows that, but he’s too much of an idiot to admit it. He still thinks… - Domer From Hell - 8:50pm 12/19/24
- It's absolutely disgusting. [NT] - MAS - 8:13pm 12/19/24
- There was no viable peace deal. Stop being a fool. [NT]
- Frank L - 8:29pm 12/19/24
- I don't understand your point. - NedoftheHill - 4:58pm 12/19/24
- This is a proxy war! It's provoked by the west, i.e. NATO expansion. - Eli - 7:10pm 12/19/24
- Of course, of course. They all know that. - MAS - 7:35pm 12/19/24
- So, I actually agree with you on most things. I wasn't looking to score points, or start a fight. - NedoftheHill - 10:50pm 12/19/24
- Your "Putin lover" point is also made by Kissinger: The demonization of Putin is not a policy. It's - Eli - 8:41pm 12/19/24
- There you have it folks. Demonizing Putin? Putin has needed no help with that. He’s a mass murderer - Frank L - 8:49pm 12/19/24
- 100%. These fools actually act like they give a shit about the Ukraine… - Domer From Hell - 9:00pm 12/19/24
- Wow…just wow [NT] - Domer From Hell - 8:45pm 12/19/24
- There you have it folks. Demonizing Putin? Putin has needed no help with that. He’s a mass murderer - Frank L - 8:49pm 12/19/24
- Apparently, you either have reading comprehension issues.. - Domer From Hell - 7:50pm 12/19/24
- Truth. [NT] - Frank L - 8:29pm 12/19/24
- Thank you for the Christmas present. - MAS - 8:13pm 12/19/24
- You’re the worst kind of American, Neville. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 8:38pm 12/19/24
- "...and a Happy New Year!" [NT] - MAS - 9:18pm 12/19/24
- You’re the worst kind of American, Neville. [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 8:38pm 12/19/24
- Of course, of course. They all know that. - MAS - 7:35pm 12/19/24
- Would have been nice if Biden gave help when Zelensky begged for it but Biden only gave green light - BaronVonZemo - 5:21pm 12/19/24
- In the real world, Biden's administration gave Ukraine $650M in anti-air and anti-armor weapons [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 7:59pm 12/19/24
- He can’t be taken seriously anymore. He blames this all on Ukraine and the US despite the fact that - Frank L - 5:12pm 12/19/24
- This is a proxy war! It's provoked by the west, i.e. NATO expansion. - Eli - 7:10pm 12/19/24
- So Putin would be happy just to have the little he has gained by destroying his country? - Curly1918 - 3:29pm 12/19/24
- Stop being a warmonger. Just give it to him. No more endless wars! [NT]
- Frank L - 4:55pm 12/19/24
- You’re right. And we should give Taiwan to Xi as well. - Curly1918 - 5:46pm 12/19/24
- We won’t defend Taiwan. Shit, the idjits bleat when we just materially support Ukraine. [NT] - Frank L - 8:28pm 12/19/24
- You’re right. And we should give Taiwan to Xi as well. - Curly1918 - 5:46pm 12/19/24
- Stop being a warmonger. Just give it to him. No more endless wars! [NT]
- Frank L - 4:55pm 12/19/24
- The Administration now defines success as having “stood up to Putin” even though - Cole - 7:50pm 12/19/24