I've researched each of your contentions and posted documentation that refutes them...if you think

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I've researched each of your contentions and posted documentation that refutes them...if you think

Author: TyroneIrish (17775 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:57 am on Jan 1, 2025

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you can prove them, show us the documentation that supports you. Let's focus on more than 'Personal Opinion' which lately is all I'm seeing from you.

Current situation...

>Catholic Church:...no teaching that a fetus has "Personhood", which is a meaningful distinction...otherwise it wouldn't be 'Debated'...so you need to understand what that means...especially when it comes to the abortion issue.

>Government:...Fetal Personhood is only recognized at the Federal Level when Born.

>Secular Humanism:...Split Opinion (take the time to read what I provided...feel free to add similar "Secular Humanist" sources that guided your thinking in the earlier post)

>U.S. Polling:...Since Roe v. Wade both Secular and Catholic polls show that 80-90% of Americans say that Abortion should be legal and available under "Certain Conditions". I've posted supporting data more than once.

Replies to: "I've researched each of your contentions and posted documentation that refutes them...if you think"

America Last until the bitter end of the Joey Administration. [LINK] - MAS - 12:49pm 12/30/24 (58) [View All]
- You get a billion and you get a billion and you get a billion. No way Joe knows what is going on. - TampaIrish - 6:17pm 12/30/24
  - What about this filly? [NT] [IMAGE] - MAS - 6:27pm 12/30/24
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  - * [NT] - ColeyO - 5:38pm 12/30/24
- Conor just wet his depends. There's still hope - ColeyO - 5:01pm 12/30/24
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    - 10% for the big guy. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 5:06pm 12/30/24
- Another 25B, & when a peace is quickly &eagerly reached under Trump, Zelensky keeps the change. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 3:53pm 12/30/24
  - Trump said 24 hours upon taking office. We shall see [NT] - Domer From Hell - 9:15pm 12/30/24
- Everything has been said that needs to be said about you, Neville. - Domer From Hell - 2:07pm 12/30/24
  - Cleaning right now. I've actually really enjoyed the Toilet Bowls this year. A lot of great games. [NT] - MAS - 2:22pm 12/30/24
- To be fair, if any deaths are being bought, they are Russian & N.Korean deaths. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:04pm 12/30/24
  - No, we're actually busy buying Ukrainian deaths, too. [NT] - MAS - 2:23pm 12/30/24
    - But that is not the intent. AND It is Ukraine that decides to fight. - NedoftheHill - 2:28pm 12/30/24
      - Intent is morally irrelevant here. We are extending a hopeless war. I also don't assume that - MAS - 2:47pm 12/30/24
        I see the Ukrainian will to fight, and our assistance to them, as separate issues. - NedoftheHill - 3:08pm 12/30/24
      - Even without US aid, the Ukraine would continue to fight… - Domer From Hell - 2:46pm 12/30/24
        Without U.S. support, Ukraine would've negotiated ages ago. [NT] - MAS - 2:48pm 12/30/24
        Without U.S. support, Ukraine would've been overrun just like the Poles were in 1939.. - Curly1918 - 4:42pm 12/30/24
        
        That’s not a safe assumption. You fail to take onto consideration the Ukrainian will to fight… - Domer From Hell - 2:57pm 12/30/24
- Freedom is 'Pointless'?...were your ancestors 'Tories' back in 1776?...and thank heaven for the - TyroneIrish - 1:51pm 12/30/24
  - Were your ancestors 'Insurrectionists' back in 1776? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:03pm 12/30/24
    - My ancestors were also rebelling against The Crown back then...but living in County Tyrone. As for - TyroneIrish - 3:20pm 12/30/24
      - I answered you question. It is part of your schtick to claim your questions aren't answered. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:01pm 12/30/24
        I wouldn't be asking if I'd seen that answer...it only takes seconds to type "Yes, or No"..do it. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 5:44pm 12/30/24
        I said I opposed aggression against all, unlike you, who opposes aggression against some. - NedoftheHill - 11:13pm 12/30/24
        In the cases where an innocent woman is forced or coerced into a pregnancy she never wanted, it's - TyroneIrish - 12:54am 12/31/24
        It is never morally licit to victimize a second innocent person to help a first victim. - NedoftheHill - 1:37pm 12/31/24
        Thanks for re-engaging...I've attached the post just prior to you leaving the discussion, and it has [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 3:00pm 12/31/24
        I said "human beings" not "persons." You are defining "person" so you can kill "human beings." - NedoftheHill - 4:52pm 12/31/24
        Glad you brought up 'Biology'...a woman is not simply a "Biological Baby Making Machine" that anyone [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 11:03pm 12/31/24
        I respond with religious argument when you misrepresent Church Doctrine about abortion. - NedoftheHill - 11:48pm 12/31/24
        I've researched each of your contentions and posted documentation that refutes them...if you think - TyroneIrish - 12:57am 1/1/25
        As you know & lie about, the Catholic Church does not rely on your subtle, nuanced definition. - NedoftheHill - 12:03am 1/2/25
        There you go again, failing to address the plight of innocent women who have been impregnated - TyroneIrish - 1:39am 1/2/25
        I've asked twice. Here is a third time. Why do you seek to avoid answering? - NedoftheHill - 3:52am 1/2/25
        Because I asked my question first in the “P.S.” to the start of this ‘sub-thread’…and - TyroneIrish - 1:29pm 1/2/25
        Abortion is a form of homicide, regulatable by the state. - NedoftheHill - 1:54pm 1/2/25
        You are making an unsupported claim...no Religious, Secular nor Legal Authority has conferred - TyroneIrish - 3:35pm 1/2/25
        I answered your question. Please answer mine if you want to keep talking. - NedoftheHill - 3:47pm 1/2/25
        By not answering "Yes" to my question you are saying "No", a woman who is forced or coerced into a [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 2:21am 1/3/25
        Are you going to answer my questions? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:57pm 1/3/25
        Your words..."My question, for the third time: In the great majority of cases, in which a woman is - TyroneIrish - 8:01pm 1/3/25
        
        I did answer you...fetal abortion is NOT defined as homicide by the RCC, Secular Humanists, or - TyroneIrish - 7:38pm 1/3/25
        Let me know when you want to answer my questions. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:48am 1/4/25
        Here is your question from 12/31... - TyroneIrish - 3:46am 1/4/25
        
        LOL...The Onus is on you, Ned...a) I asked the initial question about whether women who are forced - TyroneIrish - 3:18am 1/4/25
- You are probably correct... but there will be millions more dead Ukrainians when Putin's hordes... - Curly1918 - 1:44pm 12/30/24
  - . [NT] - Frank L - 4:18pm 12/30/24
  - Standard, unfalsifiable, fearmongering tactic used in all our modern entanglements. I take comfort - MAS - 2:19pm 12/30/24
    - I take no comfort in the fact that we went down the isolationist path in the past... with [LINK] - Curly1918 - 4:37pm 12/30/24
    - Standard, unjustifiable put down tactic of legitimate concerns. [NT] - Frank L - 4:19pm 12/30/24