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Here are the 8 lies. All demonstrably false, no ambiguity.

Author: Chris94 (36783 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:17 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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All from one tweet yesterday. Here it is, verbatim, so you know there is no spin involved.

Think of it, a modestly successful comedian, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, to go into a War that couldn’t be won, that never had to start, but a War that he, without the U.S. and “TRUMP,” will never be able to settle. The United States has spent $200 Billion Dollars more than Europe, and Europe’s money is guaranteed, while the United States will get nothing back. Why didn’t Sleepy Joe Biden demand Equalization, in that this War is far more important to Europe than it is to us — We have a big, beautiful Ocean as separation. On top of this, Zelenskyy admits that half of the money we sent him is “MISSING.” He refuses to have Elections, is very low in Ukrainian Polls, and the only thing he was good at was playing Biden “like a fiddle.” A Dictator without Elections, Zelenskyy better move fast or he is not going to have a Country left. In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to the War with Russia, something all admit only “TRUMP,” and the Trump Administration, can do. Biden never tried, Europe has failed to bring Peace, and Zelenskyy probably wants to keep the “gravy train” going. I love Ukraine, but Zelenskyy has done a terrible job, his Country is shattered, and MILLIONS have unnecessarily died – And so it continues…..

The lies:

US spent $350 Billion in Ukraine
US spent $200 Billion more than Europe
Europe’s money is guaranteed (not sure what this even means)
half the $ is MISSING (abject lie)
VZ refuses to have Elections
VZ's polls are very low
Biden never tried to get peace
MILLIONS have died

You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.


Replies to: "Here are the 8 lies. All demonstrably false, no ambiguity."

  • Israel receives far and away more aid from the US than the Ukraine. Why does MAGA approve of one - Quest4twelve - 10:49am 2/20/25 (46) [View All]
    • Which one do you think should receive proportionately more aid, and why? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:55pm 2/20/25
    • Maybe because their form of warfare is as genocidal as Putin's? - Curly1918 - 2:17pm 2/20/25
      • Elon was right about what the response should have been. [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 2:23pm 2/20/25
        • That is amazingly naive of him. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:49pm 2/20/25
          • Jesus said to turn the other cheek. - iairishcheeks - 3:45pm 2/20/25
    • I don't understand why both parties capitulate to Israel. - iairishcheeks - 11:39am 2/20/25
      • Lots of Democrats want to kill Jews. From the river to the sea, and all that. - NedoftheHill - 2:51pm 2/20/25
    • Ok, Adolph. Whatever you say. [NT] - LanceManion - 11:28am 2/20/25
      • Kanye, boomer… [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:37pm 2/20/25
    • If Putin told Trump to cut off that aid, he would. [NT] - Chris94 - 10:57am 2/20/25
      • So why doesn't he do that? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:58am 2/20/25
        • Has Putin told him to do so? [NT] - Frank L - 11:02am 2/20/25
          • Apparently not if Chris is right...which is why I asked why Putin hasn't done that. - NedoftheHill - 11:06am 2/20/25
            • Have you been paying any attention at all? - Chris94 - 11:38am 2/20/25
              • . [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:21pm 2/20/25
              • You really need to step out of your information bubble. - BaronVonZemo - 12:32pm 2/20/25
                • So, according to Ned… - Domer From Hell - 1:38pm 2/20/25
                  • I didn't say that.....or, if I did, I didn't mean it. ;-) - NedoftheHill - 2:29pm 2/20/25
                    • Ned, are you gunning for the "Baghdad Bob of the Week" award?...delving into "Alternative Facts"?... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 2:52pm 2/20/25
                      • Says the person with the least amount of credibility on this board. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:55pm 2/20/25
                        • I second that. Lying is the second worst of the proclivities he is known for,but - ColeyO - 7:11pm 2/20/25
                        • Pick a topic of your choice...let's see who has the Credibility...btw, I'm still waiting for your - TyroneIrish - 3:27pm 2/20/25
                          • I'm still waiting for your reply after I replied. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:48pm 2/21/25
                  • How long does that ban on elections go on, esp when he is so unpopular? Just keep sending $ eh? - BaronVonZemo - 2:15pm 2/20/25
                    • He's not unpopular. That is Russian disinformation, which Trump was too stupid to see. [LINK] - Chris94 - 2:28pm 2/20/25
                • Perhaps you missed it. He has been tweeting like a madman - 8 lies in one post yesterday. - Chris94 - 1:33pm 2/20/25
                  • By “lies”, you mean different than you believe/have been told? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:08pm 2/20/25
                    • Here are the 8 lies. All demonstrably false, no ambiguity. - Chris94 - 2:17pm 2/20/25
                      • How did Biden try to get peace, besides offering Zelensky a ride out of town before the invasion? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:47pm 2/20/25
                        • You might not agree with his methods. Or whatever. - Chris94 - 4:42pm 2/20/25
                • Yeah. I've seen you can't trust mefia snippets of his comments out of context. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:39pm 2/20/25
              • I don't listen to Trump. I just watch what he does. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:48am 2/20/25
                • Come on man. You know that makes zero sense [NT] - Domer From Hell - 12:27pm 2/20/25
                  • Why? A lot of what he says is not how things end up. - NedoftheHill - 12:38pm 2/20/25
                    • It’s good to know that you’re against Russian appeasement. Too bad some of your cohorts don’t … - Domer From Hell - 1:01pm 2/20/25
            • Thought you were asking why Trump hadn’t done it. Putie likely wants to take it one appeasement step - Frank L - 11:23am 2/20/25
              • Does "Putie" still have the pee-pee tape? Assume you have secret knowledge about this. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:49am 2/20/25
                • Per a GOP-led Senate Intel Committee report, Trump and Putin colluded to get DJT elected in 2016, - TyroneIrish - 1:16pm 2/20/25
                  • I'm not concerned about anything you post because anything you post is inherently untrustworthy. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:32pm 2/20/25
                    • Knew you couldn’t answer cause he’s correct. Putin has a clear hold over him. [NT] - Frank L - 3:09pm 2/20/25
                      • A majority of Americans disagree with you. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:27pm 2/20/25
                        • Post the poll. [NT] - Frank L - 3:30pm 2/20/25
    • What amounts of aid was given to each in recent years? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:55am 2/20/25
      • And oversight was blocked on the money. What we know…. - BaronVonZemo - 12:51pm 2/20/25
        • There are multiple issues here. - NedoftheHill - 2:44pm 2/20/25
        • Talking points directly from Mother Russia. - Quest4twelve - 1:58pm 2/20/25
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