The link shows that Trump's provoking them is working. That's why this is perplexing.

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The link shows that Trump's provoking them is working. That's why this is perplexing.

Author: NedoftheHill (44258 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:23 pm on Apr 23, 2025

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I guess you are saying they are finally stepping up, and therefore Rubio should start being nicer. Even though those are just increased pledges in response to Trump. Germany still has to have a super-majority in the Bundestag to meet their pledge, and there is no evidence they can do that.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

Replies to: "The link shows that Trump's provoking them is working. That's why this is perplexing."

"NATO is good only if it's a real defensive alliance, not the US and a bunch of junior partner". WOW [LINK] - Eli - 5:06pm 4/23/25 (54) [View All]
- Ok… should the US also drop all the sanctions and any tariffs on the Putin regime? - Curly1918 - 5:15am 4/24/25
- Thank God Rubio wasn’t at Normandy. He’d sell out Allied positions to Hitler. - conorlarkin - 8:07pm 4/23/25
  - That doesn't follow at all. He wants NATO to prepare to fight. How do you get from there to opposite [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:09pm 4/23/25
  - From the guy who backs China over the US. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:12pm 4/23/25
    - Conor pointed out your cult leader's weak hand. [NT] - ND521 - 8:17pm 4/23/25
    - Back China? No. Recognize that China is much smarter than Trump? Yes. [NT] - conorlarkin - 8:15pm 4/23/25
      - No. You back China on the trade war....you're a traitor. TDS over country. [NT] [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 8:19pm 4/23/25
        Aren’t you the guy who agreed with DJT in Helsinki? [NT] - jimbasil - 10:14pm 4/23/25
        
        Yes. China is far more clever than Trump. - conorlarkin - 8:29pm 4/23/25
        No. You said you chose the Chinese side in the trade war cuz you hate Trump. Spin away, traitor. - BaronVonZemo - 8:36pm 4/23/25
        Welcome back, Baron! Sorry, there was nothing traitorous about Conor’s post… - Domer From Hell - 9:08pm 4/23/25
        Rubio & conor are two different partisan sides. Would you give Rubio the same benefit of the doubt? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:12pm 4/23/25
        Nope. Rubio is a hypocrite. Conor is not. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 12:01am 4/24/25
        
        No. He mentioned that as cover now, after the fact. He was quite succinct [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:47pm 4/23/25
        
        Trump already lost. A few T-bond sales by an ally dropped the Don. [NT] - ND521 - 8:47pm 4/23/25
        
        Again. Do you realize it when you make false conclusions? [NT] - ND521 - 8:21pm 4/23/25
- The U.S. and its vassal states. Vassals pay tribute I believe is the point. [NT] - LanceManion - 7:30pm 4/23/25
  - Brookings Institution 2019 report. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 8:02pm 4/23/25
- This is a very perplexing thread. Why is it bad for NATO members contribute same % to defense as US? - NedoftheHill - 7:22pm 4/23/25
  - What’s so perplexing? [NT] [LINK] - jimbasil - 8:49pm 4/23/25
    - The link shows that Trump's provoking them is working. That's why this is perplexing. - NedoftheHill - 10:23pm 4/23/25
      - You don’t think maybe with Putin at their doorstep they’ve changed priorities? - jimbasil - 11:52pm 4/23/25
      - You don’t think the increase in Euro defense spending has more to do with Russian aggression? [NT] - Domer From Hell - 11:00pm 4/23/25
  - Btw Ned, it appears that Zelensky has no interest in peace. He repeatedly scuttles negotiations as - BaronVonZemo - 8:34pm 4/23/25
    - Hmmm... so Trump's last Secretary of State was a Zelensky puppet? [NT] [LINK] - Curly1918 - 8:42am 4/24/25
    - In fairness, there are several factors to consider here. - NedoftheHill - 11:07pm 4/23/25
      - Weaker president? It doesn’t get much weaker with what we have now… - Domer From Hell - 12:08am 4/24/25
    - You sound a lot like Eli. The war would stop if Russia withdraws. Pretty simple [NT] - Domer From Hell - 9:42pm 4/23/25
    - he'll never be as rich nor have as much power nor fame as he does while the war is ongoing. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:36pm 4/23/25
      - I hope that's not true, but his behavior does suggest it more and more. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:39pm 4/23/25
  - It's the same disconnect he has about recipricol tariffs. "If Trump does, it bad!". [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:21pm 4/23/25
    - That's kind of what it seems like. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:08pm 4/23/25
  - We also deploy resources to the Pacific - Chris94 - 7:51pm 4/23/25
    - Last I noticed, the Pacific was a vast ocean with no NATO members to carry their fair share.... - BaronVonZemo - 8:16pm 4/23/25
  - It's pure TDS, like Tyrone loving food dyes. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 7:37pm 4/23/25
- The average Trump supporter is stupid. You reminded me half of them are stupider than that. [NT] - ND521 - 6:54pm 4/23/25
- you’re just as much of an ass as Rubio. In fact, you’re both trumps ass. [NT] - jimbasil - 5:48pm 4/23/25
  - This biologically impossible. [NT] - Hensou - 6:14pm 4/23/25
- Little Marco is a Putin cocksucker too. What a disgrace [NT] - Domer From Hell - 5:44pm 4/23/25
- That guy sold his soul. [NT] - Chris94 - 5:35pm 4/23/25
  - Never had one to sell. [NT] - Frank L - 6:09pm 4/23/25
  - "I'd rather have no NATO than the current NATO". No, you sold your soul to neocon. [NT] [LINK] - Eli - 5:46pm 4/23/25
    - I’m sorry Eli, but the Americans are talking here - Chris94 - 6:34pm 4/23/25
      - Ummm...conor is in this thread also. Is there a Chinese ND site? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:39pm 4/23/25
      - Does that include illegal immigrants who have committed crimes? [NT] - Hensou - 6:58pm 4/23/25
      - I’m sorry Chris. I hate playing gotcha. But I hate dishonest discussion more. [NT] - Eli - 6:42pm 4/23/25
        I have no idea what you are talking about and i don’t care. [NT] - Chris94 - 7:52pm 4/23/25
    - At least try to proof read your drivel before posting. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 5:51pm 4/23/25
    - You need a remedial English course. Your gibberish is embarrassing. [NT] - Frank L - 5:50pm 4/23/25
      - You even don't have a soul. "Putin is more reactive than proactive" [NT] [LINK] - Eli - 5:58pm 4/23/25
        Out of curiosity, do you think Putin has a soul? Do you think he is a Christian? [NT] - Frank L - 6:08pm 4/23/25
        He is the only world leader who attended Easter Sunday service. [LINK] - Eli - 6:26pm 4/23/25
        That settles it…He’s a fucking saint. He’s forgiven for the millions of Russian and … - Domer From Hell - 8:35pm 4/23/25
        
        So you think that makes him a Christian? - Frank L - 7:35pm 4/23/25