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Both Bush and Obama fucked with Russia with respect to Georgia and the Ukraine culminating...

Author: ND1IRISH  (3269 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:58 am on Aug 20, 2016
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in a coup in Kiev. I don't think Putin cares who's in the White House. He's been clear that if we continue to press for control of the Ukraine he will destroy the country. Like it or not, the Crimea was part of Russia but for a ceremonial gesture by Nikita Khrushchev in the 1950's. Furthermore, I don't see any President being able to garner the popular support needed to get into a war with Russia. I'm not sure it's wise to get into a showdown with another nuclear power.

Replies to: “Both Bush and Obama fucked with Russia with respect to Georgia and the Ukraine culminating...”

  • If you are Putin, who would you rather be US president if you invade Ukraine: Obama? Clinton? Trump? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:52pm 8/19/16 (19) [View All]
    • What would you want the USA to do if Putin invades Ukraine? - CC72 - 5:57pm 8/22/16
      • Nothing. But I intended my question to be about deterrence of, not response to, invasion. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:45pm 8/22/16
    • Here are the poll results: Trump...1; Clinton...1; no preference/won't answer...4. No Obama??? - NedoftheHill - 5:59pm 8/21/16
      • Who among those 3 you think is the most realistic? You have to consider it before you answer the Q [NT] - Eli - 7:48pm 8/21/16
        • Realistic in what respect? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:46pm 8/22/16
    • Re: If you are Putin, who would you rather be US president if you invade Ukraine: Obama? Clinton? Trump? - Curly1918 - 2:19pm 8/21/16
    • Who understands there is actually no such nation as Ukraine. The modern Ukraine were part of Poland - Eli - 5:41am 8/20/16
      • Mostly correct. A Finland neutrality position is necessary given the geography and history. - Frank L - 6:01pm 8/20/16
        • Yeah. Ukraine has misplayed the game of geopolitics. Too bad. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:39pm 8/20/16
          • And they are misplaying it with a gangster neighbor. [NT] - Frank L - 12:55am 8/21/16
            • We're lucky to have Putin as leader of Russia today who made Russian nationalism under control [NT] - Eli - 7:55pm 8/21/16
              • Yeah right. He's exploited it to make himself dictator. [NT] - Frank L - 9:43pm 8/21/16
    • Probably Clinton since she facilitated the transfer of 20% of the U.S. uranium reserves to Russia... [NT] [LINK] - fredyo - 2:05am 8/20/16
      • astounding. Clintons= mega scumbags [NT] - hipND - 2:35pm 8/20/16
    • Both Bush and Obama fucked with Russia with respect to Georgia and the Ukraine culminating... - ND1IRISH - 1:58am 8/20/16
      • Correct [NT] - CC72 - 5:58pm 8/22/16
    • Trump. He changed the GOP platform so that if elected no arm or ammunition to Ukraine [NT] - NDinTN - 1:50am 8/20/16
    • Not sure he would want to invade Ukraine - Chris94 - 11:08pm 8/19/16
      • No doubt he's already invaded - iairishcheeks - 11:25pm 8/19/16

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