While doubtful I can vote for Trump, I am a NeverPlumper...so Hillary is the non-starter for me.

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While doubtful I can vote for Trump, I am a NeverPlumper...so Hillary is the non-starter for me.

Author: TakethetrainKnute (34527 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:18 pm on Aug 31, 2016

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I wrote-in my vote in 2008 and wound up with Obama, who sucks on toast.

Replies to: "While doubtful I can vote for Trump, I am a NeverPlumper...so Hillary is the non-starter for me."

For you lesser of the two evils voters........ - Frank L - 12:07pm 8/31/16 (100) [View All]
- Cankles vs the Oompa Loompa. [NT] - Tenacious_P - 7:58pm 9/1/16
- SCOTUS is far and way the only reason needed to vote for Trump - IrishMac - 12:32pm 9/1/16
- you are so wrong - Hank the Tank - 11:43pm 8/31/16
  - No matter your feelings on frankiel - you have hit the jackpot in crackpot with that post. - jimbasil - 11:31am 9/1/16
    - doesn't matter what he thinks - Hank the Tank - 10:53pm 9/1/16
      - Of course it doesn't. But think is the operative word Hank. You should try it some time. [NT] - Frank L - 3:57pm 9/2/16
      - ...so does mine. [NT] - jimbasil - 9:34am 9/2/16
  - Are you on drugs, or just demented, or both? [NT] - Frank L - 12:13am 9/1/16
- SCOTUS appointments + dismantling Obamacare + protecting religious conscientious objection rights - BaronVonZemo - 8:12pm 8/31/16
- Wrong there is always a choice. Our greatest gift is the ability to choose. What about looking at it - THEISMANCARR - 6:54pm 8/31/16
  - Of course there is. But it doesn't mean having to choose one of them. [NT] - Frank L - 7:35pm 8/31/16
    - But if you don't choose one of them, you are just throwing your vote away and in fact possibly - THEISMANCARR - 8:59pm 8/31/16
      - Incorrect. I'm throwing my vote away by choosing either. - Frank L - 9:03pm 8/31/16
        wrong again - Hank the Tank - 11:56pm 8/31/16
        "You are failing because you are never right". Second grade must have been such a struggle. [NT] - Frank L - 12:15am 9/1/16
- Once there is "lesser" of the Two there is no tipping point of unacceptable on the Two. Your problem - Eli - 5:43pm 8/31/16
  - [NT] - jimbasil - 9:41am 9/2/16
  - Thanks Stalin. Talk about an unorganized mind. - Frank L - 6:04pm 8/31/16
    - Responding here to your comment to me below: You make a good point in the abstract. - NedoftheHill - 10:39pm 8/31/16
      - "Trump doesn't support anything bad other than enforcing our immigration laws." - LanceHarbor - 12:37pm 9/1/16
        "Traditional Republican platform"...why even mention such a thing in this discussion? - NedoftheHill - 2:08pm 9/1/16
        how convenient that you changed "bad" in the previous post to "evil" now. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 6:33pm 9/1/16
        Franks asked about, and I answered about moral badness (evil). Were you discusing practical effect? - NedoftheHill - 9:53am 9/2/16
      - Thanks for at least answering the question. - Frank L - 11:21am 9/1/16
        As far as raw qualifications, he is FAR more qualified that Obama was. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:01pm 9/1/16
        That's not all I'm talking about, but untrue even there. - Frank L - 3:49pm 9/1/16
        He didn't teach Con Law. And, he had 1 year in the Senate before he ran for president. - NedoftheHill - 4:16pm 9/1/16
        this post nicely summarizes how your posting has devolved. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 6:34pm 9/1/16
        Care to elaborate? - NedoftheHill - 6:42pm 9/1/16
        Not really. If I taught a course on race and discrimination at UC...... - Frank L - 6:47pm 9/1/16
        I disagree. - NedoftheHill - 6:49pm 9/1/16
        That would depend. If I knew he had other employment, I would assume he was adjunct. - Frank L - 6:52pm 9/1/16
        
        What you smoking Jack? [LINK] - Frank L - 4:22pm 9/1/16
        That link didn't refute what I said. - NedoftheHill - 6:35pm 9/1/16
        And what you said about him being in the Senate for one year before running is MORE misleading. - Frank L - 6:42pm 9/1/16
        I checked the dates. We're both wrong. He had 2 years in the Senate before running. - NedoftheHill - 6:46pm 9/1/16
        I said he had over 700 days. I also said he had been in the senate for four years. - Frank L - 6:48pm 9/1/16
        Yes, but much of that next 2 years was spent campaigning and not voting. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:50pm 9/1/16
        Much but not all. How much does Rubio have then? - Frank L - 6:53pm 9/1/16
        Or Cruz. - LanceHarbor - 7:05pm 9/1/16
        I don't disagree with either of you on this limited point about Cruz & Rubio. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:00pm 9/1/16
    - Stalin is the necessary evil you need to defeat Hitler. Is this pragmatic approach too hard for you? [NT] - Eli - 6:28pm 8/31/16
      - Yeah, but which one is Hitler, Stalin. [NT] - Frank L - 7:32pm 8/31/16
        - Eli - 1:55am 9/1/16
        
        You can't see the difference between Trump and Clinton? [NT] - Cole - 9:26pm 8/31/16
        They are both unacceptable for different reasons. - Frank L - 11:34pm 8/31/16
        
        If you compare them to Hitler and Stalin you don't know the evils of Hitler and Stalin. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 9:00pm 8/31/16
        Dude, he made the comparison. Jeez. [NT] - Frank L - 9:02pm 8/31/16
        Jeez, I hate being called dude. Typical milenniel word usage. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 1:58pm 9/1/16
        Swerve bitch. [NT] - Frank L - 4:10pm 9/1/16
  - His intellect is in order. His emotions prevent him from prioritizing. Trump infuriates him. [IMAGE] - NedoftheHill - 5:53pm 8/31/16
    - His mind now is more like this guy's..... - Eli - 6:40pm 8/31/16
      - Perhaps. It's hard to top genius like "Once there is 'lesser' of the Two there is no tipping point.. - Frank L - 7:42pm 8/31/16
    - No, Trump presents a risk to the current form of our govt. - Frank L - 6:06pm 8/31/16
      - I just saw a HRC PAC attack ad on Trump. I'm surprised they didn't end it with nuclear explosions. - NedoftheHill - 6:14pm 8/31/16
        I remember watching that ad... - fredyo - 6:18pm 8/31/16
        I was talking to my wife last night about those drills. She said "A lot of good that would have - LTNDFAN - 10:24pm 8/31/16
        Play the odds. Many survivors were blocks from Hiroshima ground zero. - NedoftheHill - 12:01am 9/1/16
        OK, I will buy that. Good points. [NT] - LTNDFAN - 12:43am 9/1/16
        
        I still laugh at the nuclear weapon training I got in the Army. [LINK] [IMAGE] - NedoftheHill - 6:26pm 8/31/16
- The Democrats and the Republicans are like two sides of a Mobius strip... - fredyo - 4:04pm 8/31/16
  - POY - golfkrzy - 4:28pm 8/31/16
- Morality doesn't bar us from choosing the lesser of two evils in an election. - NedoftheHill - 4:00pm 8/31/16
  - That wasn't the question. I know all that, although it's not that simple under Catholic doctrine. - Frank L - 7:59pm 8/31/16
- I would vote for Trump's opponent, almost no matter who it was - Chris94 - 2:25pm 8/31/16
  - Nixon is probably a good line. Hard to think of any nominee since I started voting in 76. - Frank L - 2:49pm 8/31/16
    - It's not fair to compare Nixon to Hillary. She is far worse than he was. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:43pm 8/31/16
      - Nixon had major flaws but also major accomplishments - CC72 - 6:16pm 8/31/16
        So did Stalin. [NT] - Frank L - 11:36pm 8/31/16
        Comparing Nixon with Stalin is nuts [NT] - CC72 - 9:17am 9/1/16
        Not to the extent that their accomplishments were far overshadowed by their flaws. - Frank L - 9:28am 9/1/16
        This is absurd. Nixon didn't purposly starve 7 million people [NT] [LINK] - CC72 - 3:46pm 9/1/16
        Never said he did. He also didn't defeat Hitler or create the biggest empire in Europe. - Frank L - 4:27pm 9/1/16
        Total bullshit [NT] - CC72 - 8:10pm 9/1/16
        Not total, but just about everything here is bullshit of some type. [NT] - Frank L - 10:37am 9/2/16
        
        Agreed. Watergate ruined the Vietnam peace process, though. Domestic scandals matter. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:29pm 8/31/16
- There is no point in arguing with a NeverTrumper. - Cole - 1:38pm 8/31/16
  - While doubtful I can vote for Trump, I am a NeverPlumper...so Hillary is the non-starter for me. - TakethetrainKnute - 2:18pm 8/31/16
    - Huma thinks she's beautiful. So there. [NT] - Frank L - 3:11pm 8/31/16
  - I'm guessing Frank never watches either network. - LanceHarbor - 1:56pm 8/31/16
    - Ok, you're right - he reads Bill Kristol, an original NeverTrumper who also calls him a demagogue. [IMAGE] - Cole - 2:04pm 8/31/16
      - Keep fighting the good fight. - LanceHarbor - 2:08pm 8/31/16
        It will not be Soros or the DHS. It will have been the Republican establishment and NeverTrumpers - Cole - 2:13pm 8/31/16
        That's a pretty big cross section of the party, including the hardest core conservative, Cruz. - Frank L - 2:54pm 8/31/16
        
        . [NT] - Cole - 2:22pm 8/31/16
        
        You're right; we need more people in politics who bury their beliefs and blindly follow the nominee. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 2:18pm 8/31/16
        Thank you, you just made my point. Trump's positions are in line with Jeb's and Mitt's beliefs. - Cole - 2:23pm 8/31/16
        They don't support him because they know he's unqualified in several major respects. - Frank L - 2:57pm 8/31/16
        I do not get the "unqualified" part. Are you saying he hasn't been a pol? - Cole - 3:15pm 8/31/16
        In part. He does have zero experience with governing. - Frank L - 3:29pm 8/31/16
        Responses in the text. - Cole - 4:12pm 8/31/16
- I was disappointed to learn that Johnson does not believe in mandatory vaccines... - LanceHarbor - 12:55pm 8/31/16
  - I think he clarified that he now does support it after being corrected. - Tenacious_P - 7:57pm 9/1/16
  - What is it with that nonsense? Craziness. - Frank L - 1:07pm 8/31/16
    - Why does the Libertarian Party insist on loons for their candidates? [NT] - CC72 - 1:52pm 8/31/16
      - I really liked Harry Browne. Pretty level headed. - NedoftheHill - 4:11pm 8/31/16
      - They have some loony ideas along with some that make sense. - Frank L - 2:16pm 8/31/16
        Kind of like the Democrats and the Republicans? - NedoftheHill - 4:07pm 8/31/16
        Yeah, only loonier in some instances. [NT] - Frank L - 7:43pm 8/31/16
  - . [NT] - Frank L - 1:07pm 8/31/16

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