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The difference being that the Koch brothers refuse to back Trump w/$$$...

Author: fredyo (12582 Posts - Joined: Sep 7, 2009)
Posted at 4:05 pm on Oct 21, 2016
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This from one of your "trusted" news sources...

DONALD TRUMP WONT BE GETTING KOCH BROTHERS MONEY
BY REUTERS ON 8/2/16 AT 1:35 PM- published by Newsweek

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (Reuters) - The billionaire industrialist Koch brothers rejected pressure over the weekend from dozens of big donors in their sprawling political network to back U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, saying that their money was better spent trying to influence congressional races.

The rejection deprives Trump, a New York businessman who has never previously run for elected office, of a major source of fundraising and reflects how his unorthodox White House bid has sparked some disarray among fundraisers who would normally be squarely behind a Republican nominee.

The Kochs, with a nearly $300 million political warchest, have earned a reputation as powerful allies in Republican politics.

Charles Koch, the dominant player in his political partnership with brother David Koch, told attendees at a bi-annual donor retreat at a luxury resort in Colorado Springs, Colorado: At this point, I cant support either candidate for the White House.

He said networks mandate was to shore up the countrys financial future and eliminate corporate welfare," a reference to government subsidies provided to some industries.

"But since it appears that neither presidential candidate is likely to support us in these efforts, we are focused on maximizing the number of principled leaders in the House and Senate who will," he said.

Trump's protectionist stances and pledges to review free trade agreements and to get tough on immigration have clashed with the Kochs' free-market political philosophy. Charles Koch has described as a "a blood libel" the idea he would instead support Hillary Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee for the Nov. 8 election.

A group of wealthy Republican donors, who paid the minimum $100,000 per year to be members of the 700-strong Koch network, had been urging the brothers to step off the sidelines of the election and back Trump.

SEEKING FUTURE INFLUENCE

The donors argued that if Trump is elected, the Koch network would want to have influence on his emerging policies and cabinet picks, and to have access to a Trump administration.

Over cocktails on the patio overlooking the Rocky Mountains, in private meetings and on text message threads, some donors voiced their concern that if the Kochs alienate Trump, "it could hurt us down the road."

Some suggested that some donors could leave the Koch network over the decision not to back Trump. Oil magnate Harold Hamm, a leading candidate to serve as Trump's energy secretary, did not attend the weekend gathering.

Other donors who had been at the forefront of a movement to urge the Kochs to get on board with Trump, like billionaire broadcasting magnate Stanley Hubbard, said that in a private meeting with Charles, they had now been convinced that the Kochs were "doing the right thing."

Trump has shown no hesitation in spurning the Kochs.

On Friday, he tweeted that he had turned down an invitation to meet with the brothers. Koch insiders quickly disputed that characterization, saying an invite was never extended.

Nonetheless, the Koch brothers also did not act to stop Trump from beating 16 presidential rivals and winning the party nomination. During the primary contests, many Koch donors were urging the brothers to perform a "Trump Intervention," whereby the brothers would leverage their political operation to support Trump's rivals. The Kochs refused.

Trump officially accepted the Republican nomination in Cleveland last month, with a speech that painted a bleak picture of rising crime at home and increasing threats from overseas.

The top Koch official on criminal justice reform, Mark Holden, said the speech was inaccurate. "We are safer [now]," he said.


This is a far cry from Soros' overt manipulation of the Democratic Party to serve his personal agenda.


Link: Trump has shown no hesitation in spurning the Kochs.

Keep on rockin' in the free world

Replies to: "The difference being that the Koch brothers refuse to back Trump w/$$$..."

  • Conor, if you are against "foreign entities impacting our election" - BaronVonZemo - 12:53am 10/21/16 (40) [View All]
    • I'm more concerned about 2 "Americans" impacting our election process (long read)... [LINK] - fredyo - 11:45am 10/21/16
      • It's good someone supports the Washington Times - every one needs a job - jimbasil - 12:32pm 10/21/16
        • cute but non-responsive [NT] - Hank the Tank - 1:45pm 10/21/16
          • Like a hooker, eh? [NT] - Chris94 - 2:46pm 10/21/16
            • didn't know that jim was a hooker--thanks for the info [NT] - Hank the Tank - 3:26pm 10/21/16
      • Soros! Of course! [NT] - Chris94 - 11:49am 10/21/16
        • Your sarcasm re: Soros allows you to dismiss a tremendous amount. How convenient for you. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:43pm 10/21/16
          • He is the right's bogeyman. The left has theirs (the Kochs). - Chris94 - 3:11pm 10/21/16
            • Undoubtedly, except that one of them has been given access to the power structure & one hasn't. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 5:48pm 10/21/16
            • The difference being that the Koch brothers refuse to back Trump w/$$$... [LINK] - fredyo - 4:05pm 10/21/16
              • True. But they have funded the modern conserative movement. - Chris94 - 4:54pm 10/21/16
    • Not to mention the foreign donations to the Clintons. - NedoftheHill - 9:35am 10/21/16
      • Amazing how the Clintons have made $250 million selling a single product, influence. - Frank L - 10:46am 10/21/16
        • For the 1000th time, they make what all top people make for speeches - Chris94 - 11:50am 10/21/16
          • 250 million worth? Just to hear them speak? Please tell me you don't believe that's why they were - Frank L - 12:37pm 10/21/16
            • A-listers get that kind of dough - Chris94 - 12:48pm 10/21/16
              • For the infinity-th time, you have simply no idea how much they're being paid or why... - TakethetrainKnute - 1:08pm 10/21/16
                • I agree that he is probably cashing in all over the place - Chris94 - 1:56pm 10/21/16
                • You mean this Bill Clinton...."3 CGI donors paid him" Bill Clinton. They are a disgrace. [NT] [LINK] - Frank L - 1:15pm 10/21/16
                  • And the guy says he could name about 500 other instances. [NT] - Frank L - 1:18pm 10/21/16
              • Misses the point. They aren't paying him to hear him speak, just like the for profit college"...... - Frank L - 12:55pm 10/21/16
                • What you are describing is essentially lobbying - Chris94 - 12:59pm 10/21/16
                  • Their fees were at the top and the number of bookings, ginormous. All to purchase influence. - Frank L - 1:07pm 10/21/16
    • An illegal immigrant is not a foreign entity/power/sovereign. - conorlarkin - 6:21am 10/21/16
      • So, you're drawing a distinction about WHICH foreign influences are acceptable to our election. - BaronVonZemo - 2:38pm 10/21/16
        • Take your ass whooping like a man, and have a good weekend. [NT] - conorlarkin - 5:01pm 10/21/16
          • said the unruly brat as the teacher put him in the corner. And you have a good weekend as well! [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 5:52pm 10/21/16
            • I was being Trump like. Will follow up later tonite/tomorrow re wikileaks conversation. [NT] - conorlarkin - 7:08pm 10/21/16
      • That's a long way of saying you agree that illegal aliens should not vote. - NedoftheHill - 9:33am 10/21/16
        • The one thing we should all be confident in is, there is massive voter fraud in each election. - jimbasil - 12:45pm 10/21/16
          • you are stupid - Hank the Tank - 1:55pm 10/21/16
            • I don't know what you're talking about and more important, neither do you. [NT] - jimbasil - 1:59pm 10/21/16
              • of course you don't, that's what makes you stupid. - Hank the Tank - 3:27pm 10/21/16
    • And you have difinitive proof that "illegals" are being allowed to vote in our elections? [NT] - jimbasil - 1:44am 10/21/16
      • just read above - Hank the Tank - 1:59pm 10/21/16
      • At least as much prrof as you have that the Russians are behind the Wikileaks. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:16am 10/21/16
        • Ah, I forgot you're a Putin guy like the Donald. - jimbasil - 12:27pm 10/21/16
    • BOOM [NT] - JarHead4ND - 1:35am 10/21/16
      • Re: BOOM - jimbasil - 8:17am 10/21/16
      • With the BYE week, enjoy the weekend in your basement-- [NT] [IMAGE] - conorlarkin - 6:44am 10/21/16
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