and signing that blank check on your life. (they're all Navy, btw...not sure which branch you're serving in).
The vaccines started out very well on the original version of COVID-19 at 95% effectivity (Moderna), but then the virus mutated, as we've all seen, and hindered it's ability to protect against infection...but it didn't drop to zero...not sure what the level of protection is right now, but they do help in that regard. What they still do very well...as borne out by real world results...is keep folks out of ICUs (~98% are unvaccinated) and morgues...and Hospitals...note: a Sept, 2021 report said that unvaccinated people were 5 times more likely to get infected with COVID and 10 times more likely to be hospitalized, than those who were vaccinated...so, they really do work.
If the only outcomes of COVID infections were runny noses, we wouldn't be investing all this effort on vaccines...but the stakes are clearly much higher, so we do the very best we can.
As for medical personnel getting vaccinated, many, if not most systems are requiring vaccination and the cooperation rate is typically in the high-90% range...not sure where the folks are that you know, or what their employment requirements are.
Regarding Michigan...their "COVID Crisis" was/is a front-page news item that caught my eye, and yes, given that we all know where Baron lives, I couldn't help but notice the coincidence...but my mention of Michigan's troubles with COVID had zero to do with BVZ...just a major state whose health care system is being overwhelmed with unvaccinated cases of COVID-19...I would say the same if it were Vermont, Iowa, or even California, because the underlying problem is "Unvaccinated" Americans...they're needlessly getting seriously ill and too often dying while squeezing out all others who did get vaccinated, yet have urgent medical needs.
I haven't asked, but am hoping, that Baron has volunteered to help fill the need for doctors to treat COVID patients there in his home state...if you're listening, Baron, let us know.
Finally, cases are rising everywhere, and a significant surge is possible...as for Florida, DeSantis now has an investigation pending by the Univ. of Florida for him ordering the destruction of COVID data...we already know he's cooking the books by not counting "Snowbird" cases, hospitalizations and deaths, so I wouldn't put it past him...back in August, Georgia was in very bad shape with hospitals close to capacity...they've gotten much better...btw, I'm on no way "Cheering" for bad outcomes...I'm just highlighting them when they occur so that people don't think all's well and decide to "Move On" before anything's been solved.
As someone who has a nephew, niece and cousin active right now, I very much appreciate your service,
Replies to: "As someone who has a nephew, niece and cousin active right now, I very much appreciate your service,"
- Stupid article in NY Times wants us to booster forever - MarkHarman - 11:31pm 12/13/21
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- Mark, we are safe. Biden has a travel ban on African countries due to Omicron - Cole - 7:48am 12/14/21
- US has aligned with China to orchestrate a unified response to a planned and artificial pandemic. [NT] - eftg1 - 1:09am 12/14/21
- Get over it, Mark...we "boost" every year with the Seasonal Flu vaccines...it's just a little shot - TyroneIrish - 12:21am 12/14/21
- We don't shut down people or institutions for the flu, or make people wear masks - MarkHarman - 11:45am 12/14/21
- Interesting.... [NT] [LINK] - Stark Raving Dad - 10:04am 12/14/21
- Just curious, who is "we". Lately about 52% of the US population get the flu vaccine each year... [NT]
- TakethetrainKnute - 2:55am 12/14/21
- ;-)...something of a euphemism that belies my demographic, age-wise...most everyone in my cohort - TyroneIrish - 11:52am 12/14/21
- Not really. Just wanted to know where you were coming from. Thought you might be implying everyone - TakethetrainKnute - 12:17pm 12/14/21
- Which means, we are asked to get a flu shot annually. - jimbasil - 4:13am 12/14/21
- And, though asked, 48% opt not to... [NT]
- TakethetrainKnute - 4:17am 12/14/21
- It's almost like you have a choice in the matter [NT]
- wrdomerson - 10:07am 12/14/21
- As Jim says...we're in a global pandemic right now...if we continue to vaccinate we'll knock COVID - TyroneIrish - 11:47am 12/14/21
- I actually do not have a choice in the matter. - wrdomerson - 2:05pm 12/14/21
- As someone who has a nephew, niece and cousin active right now, I very much appreciate your service, - TyroneIrish - 3:30pm 12/14/21
- I appreciate their service as well, even if they are Navy [LINK]
- wrdomerson - 4:10pm 12/14/21
- When the death rate from COVID-19 is 10x the yearly rate from Pneumonia/Influenza, it's going to get [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 7:36pm 12/14/21
- I appreciate their service as well, even if they are Navy [LINK]
- wrdomerson - 4:10pm 12/14/21
- As someone who has a nephew, niece and cousin active right now, I very much appreciate your service, - TyroneIrish - 3:30pm 12/14/21
- You speak of endemic like it's a good thing. - iairishcheeks - 1:44pm 12/14/21
- Cheeks, compared to a pandemic that could end up costing the U.S. over a million lives (yes, that - TyroneIrish - 2:52pm 12/14/21
- In essence, endemic just means it persists over time (i.e. it will likely never go away) - iairishcheeks - 4:34pm 12/14/21
- You are absolutely correct regarding the hyper-polarization of COVID-19...IMO, it's ALL due to DT... - TyroneIrish - 6:38pm 12/14/21
- Wow,Trump really owned you. I'd feel sorry if it didn't seem so self-inflicted. [NT]
- iairishcheeks - 11:50pm 12/14/21
- Not at all...did DT not do and say all the things I mentioned?...are they injurious to the health of - TyroneIrish - 12:44am 12/15/21
- C'mon Tyrone, we've had this conversation already. - iairishcheeks - 2:10am 12/15/21
- Not at all...did DT not do and say all the things I mentioned?...are they injurious to the health of - TyroneIrish - 12:44am 12/15/21
- Wow,Trump really owned you. I'd feel sorry if it didn't seem so self-inflicted. [NT]
- iairishcheeks - 11:50pm 12/14/21
- You are absolutely correct regarding the hyper-polarization of COVID-19...IMO, it's ALL due to DT... - TyroneIrish - 6:38pm 12/14/21
- In essence, endemic just means it persists over time (i.e. it will likely never go away) - iairishcheeks - 4:34pm 12/14/21
- Cheeks, compared to a pandemic that could end up costing the U.S. over a million lives (yes, that - TyroneIrish - 2:52pm 12/14/21
- I actually do not have a choice in the matter. - wrdomerson - 2:05pm 12/14/21
- Good thing the flu isn’t a pandemic. [NT]
- jimbasil - 11:37am 12/14/21
- It was, as recently as 2009 - wrdomerson - 1:21pm 12/14/21
- As Jim says...we're in a global pandemic right now...if we continue to vaccinate we'll knock COVID - TyroneIrish - 11:47am 12/14/21
- It's almost like you have a choice in the matter [NT]
- wrdomerson - 10:07am 12/14/21
- And, though asked, 48% opt not to... [NT]
- TakethetrainKnute - 4:17am 12/14/21
- ;-)...something of a euphemism that belies my demographic, age-wise...most everyone in my cohort - TyroneIrish - 11:52am 12/14/21
- I'll take a covid-flu booster every year. You support elimination of all restrictions.Fair trade? [NT]
- NedoftheHill - 1:07am 12/14/21
- If 90% of the country would agree, would be no pandemic - Frank L - 12:05pm 12/14/21
- See below. Tyrone can't agree. He deflects b/c he wants to maintain restrictions regardless. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:55pm 12/14/21
- I'm not sure, but I think there's an actual question you're trying to ask...what is it? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 11:40am 12/14/21
- If 90% of the country would agree, would be no pandemic - Frank L - 12:05pm 12/14/21
- It will go on and on and on …. [NT]
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- conorlarkin - 11:34pm 12/13/21
- So you like tanks? How about a ride-a-long on a Panzer? [LINK] - JarHead4ND - 1:03am 12/14/21