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If you look at Johns Hopkins COVID data graphics, you'll notice how hospitalization and ICU bed use

Author: TyroneIrish (21729 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 1:47 pm on Dec 18, 2021
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has ebbed and flowed with the virus surges...first the initial onslaught from the "Wild Type"...then from "Delta"...and now Delta + "Omicron"...throughout this pandemic, the ICU beds have been populated with Un-vaccinated patients...since the introduction of the vaccines this still true...again ~98% of those ICU cases are not vaccinated.

As for hospitalizations and charges for COVID...a) Doctors are NOT fudging their test results...that would be gross malpractice, and none of them are risking their careers to help the hospital make a few more bucks...b) the costs for COVID treatment can be quite high with several pulmonary, respiratory, infectious disease and cardiology specialists involved, along with special nursing care for those on ventilators...all this for days, weeks and even months per patient...that adds up and should be compensated...that whole mindset is a trope.

In the case of Cornell...ABSOLUTELY makes sense to shut down when 900 students suddenly test positive...virtually all of those kids will be headed to all parts of the country soon and represent threats to the unvaccinated communities they end up in. The fact that they are all vaccinated shows the transmissibility of the Omicron variant...but it also shows the vaccines' efficacy in keeping people from developing serious illness. I like that the university is requiring 10 days of isolation for those who tested positive, and assisting the others with info and guidance on how to conduct themselves when they leave (I imagine educating them on home testing, and how to spot symptoms early).

One more time...Vaccines keep people alive and out of hospital ICUs...that's a VERY BIG DEAL...and the PRIMARY reason why we have vaccines. It would be icing on the cake if we could eradicate the virus through vaccination, but that's not looking very probable, so our goal is to reduce the threat to one of "Endemic" proportions.


Replies to: "If you look at Johns Hopkins COVID data graphics, you'll notice how hospitalization and ICU bed use"

  • Conor, Tyrone and others...the nonsense of our health professionals - MarkHarman - 11:20pm 12/17/21 (28) [View All]
    • The vaccine doesn't prevent transmission in fact it increases it [NT] - eftg1 - 11:29am 12/18/21
    • In my state, only 1.6% of fully vaccinated people have had a breakthrough case. - conorlarkin - 6:25am 12/18/21
      • Your state is the state of denial 💉 [NT] - eftg1 - 2:08pm 12/18/21
      • More lies. [NT] - notredame678 - 10:15am 12/18/21
      • You're ignoring natural immunity - MarkHarman - 8:50am 12/18/21
        • Cornell has over 900 cases. [NT] - notredame678 - 10:17am 12/18/21
          • I now trust the medical establishment about as much as I trust voting. [NT] - eftg1 - 11:45am 12/18/21
        • Omicron is running straight past natural immunity. Ask Sean Payton. [NT] - Chris94 - 9:08am 12/18/21
        • Your bottom line point is reasonable. - conorlarkin - 9:00am 12/18/21
      • Wait until omicron arrives [NT] - Chris94 - 8:42am 12/18/21
        • It officially arrived yesterday. - conorlarkin - 9:49am 12/18/21
    • You asked, so I'll give you my thoughts on this... - TyroneIrish - 1:05am 12/18/21
      • First, thanks for answering - MarkHarman - 8:40am 12/18/21
        • If you look at Johns Hopkins COVID data graphics, you'll notice how hospitalization and ICU bed use - TyroneIrish - 1:47pm 12/18/21
    • I guess we should all just be getting our recommendations from amateur epidemiologists like you - Chris94 - 12:02am 12/18/21
      • We should leave everything to the “smart” people. - Curly1918 - 10:10am 12/18/21
        • When it comes to complex problems like COVID-19, everyone benefits from the leadership of - TyroneIrish - 1:50pm 12/18/21
        • You do know that more than 50% of the GOP believes the big lie? - Frank L - 10:49am 12/18/21
          • And your beliefs are all 100% correct… right? - Curly1918 - 11:47am 12/18/21
            • Nope, but I’m not out there with zero expertise criticizing those that have it and thinking I know - Frank L - 12:45pm 12/18/21
        • Ken Lay was smart. So too Jeff Skilling. - Stark Raving Dad - 10:35am 12/18/21
      • As it stands, we are getting the advice from the political epidemiologists - just as bad or worse. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:37am 12/18/21
      • They may be smart, but have little capacity to use sound logic [NT] - MarkHarman - 8:28am 12/18/21
    • They are trying to load an operating system into our bodies [NT] - eftg1 - 11:53pm 12/17/21
      • Your honor, I rest my case. [NT] - Chris94 - 12:03am 12/18/21
        • We all should just say a little prayer for "Ef" and trust that someone is looking after him... - TyroneIrish - 1:11am 12/18/21
          • Hate to tell you, ef adds more to this board with one of his - ColeyO - 11:02am 12/18/21
            • But there was a time when Ty went to civil rights march and shouted "fweedom!" [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 11:17am 12/18/21
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