Here’s my prediction. The shutdown is unsustainable past this month.

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Here’s my prediction. The shutdown is unsustainable past this month.

Author: Frank L (32916 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:47 am on Jan 9, 2019

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Unless something breaks, always a possibility, Orange is going to say he did everything he could including the speech to avoid invoking the emergency, but it hasn’t worked and he’s now doing it. Also let’s the govt reopen, and fights in the court. If he loses, he says he did all he could.

Replies to: "Here’s my prediction. The shutdown is unsustainable past this month."

I just don't get the people who are willing to go to the mattresses over the "wall" issue. - NDavenue - 9:03am 1/9/19 (66) [View All]
- The issue is whether the President should hold the government hostage over it. - conorlarkin - 11:56am 1/9/19
  - As I tell my children, it takes two people to fight. - iairishcheeks - 12:39pm 1/9/19
    - So you let your child hide the clicker, and deny TV to household until .... - conorlarkin - 3:17pm 1/9/19
      - Of course not, my children are well behaved. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 3:39pm 1/9/19
        Unlike Trump .... who happens to be a US President. Hence, my point. [NT] - conorlarkin - 3:56pm 1/9/19
        "But he started it!" [NT] - iairishcheeks - 4:44pm 1/9/19
    - How so? There had already been a bipartisan solution to keep the govt - Frank L - 12:45pm 1/9/19
      - It's pretty simple. - iairishcheeks - 1:23pm 1/9/19
        How’s he going to claim victory? They already offered him $25 billion worth of Wall for DACA which - Frank L - 5:13pm 1/9/19
        
        The Dems are in a hissy fit over 10 minutes worth of .gov border spending - CC72 - 2:26pm 1/9/19
        Trump is throwing the hissy fit. The Dems are just refusing to appease the tantrum. [NT] - LehighND - 7:06pm 1/9/19
  - Bingo. Give the man a kewpie doll. [NT] - Frank L - 11:58am 1/9/19
- Surprised you'd blame the uneducated racists at Trump rallies who chant "Build the Wall". Smh. [NT] - ND521 - 11:40am 1/9/19
  - Tear down the border wall at San Diego and invite everyone to cross in - CC72 - 2:28pm 1/9/19
- Everything is about "identity politics." - Curly1918 - 11:19am 1/9/19
- I'll bet you thought that was a great line, didn't you? - jimbasil - 11:14am 1/9/19
  - Very cogent argument. [NT] - NDavenue - 11:24am 1/9/19
    - Then give me something to work with. [NT] - jimbasil - 11:40am 1/9/19
- When did Candidate Don say the American taxpayer was going to pay for the wall? - Rooney - 11:07am 1/9/19
  - I think the vast majority of Trump voters understood it was hyperbole. [NT] - NDavenue - 11:30am 1/9/19
    - Yeah sure, hyperbole - his base actually thought when voting for him, it's just hyperbole - jimbasil - 11:39am 1/9/19
    - Respectfully, I think you give the vast majority of Trump voters too much credit. - Rooney - 11:37am 1/9/19
      - The base yes. The left underestimates how many votes he could get, not from supporters, - Frank L - 11:44am 1/9/19
        I think you are spot on. That has been my point for 2 years now. - NDavenue - 1:03pm 1/9/19
        
        I know I shouldn't say this, because a Biden-Trump election would be fun, but Biden is unelectable. [NT] [IMAGE] - NedoftheHill - 11:57am 1/9/19
        Bring that shit on. Would love to see the fight over who is the bigger dirtbag. [NT] - Frank L - 11:59am 1/9/19
        Agreed. Would be fun. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:49pm 1/9/19
    - Not a valid reason to close down the govt when you can’t back up yer hyperbole! [NT] - Frank L - 11:33am 1/9/19
- Mostly fair points. But look at it from the other side. Orange has been a petulant child over this. - Frank L - 10:49am 1/9/19
  - I also think the Dems could play it more in their favor if they agree to fund it. - NDavenue - 11:39am 1/9/19
    - Here’s my prediction. The shutdown is unsustainable past this month. - Frank L - 11:47am 1/9/19
      - Here is my perfect scenario on that. - NedoftheHill - 1:57pm 1/9/19
      - That is a very real possibility. Maybe even likely. [NT] - NDavenue - 1:00pm 1/9/19
      - Not a bad prediction. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:59am 1/9/19
  - I guess we'll see where it goes. I think it will hurts Dems though. [NT] - NDavenue - 11:33am 1/9/19
- So it's Democrats going to the mattresses over the wall, is it? - Chris94 - 10:41am 1/9/19
  - Sorry. I meant in terms of opposing it. I assume everyone expected Trump to do it. - NDavenue - 11:28am 1/9/19
- Answers. - LehighND - 10:14am 1/9/19
  - Lehigh, why do you think the Democrats changed their minds on the wall? Just b/c Trump likes it? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:02pm 1/9/19
    - I don't understand the question. - LehighND - 6:55pm 1/9/19
      - He is proposing basically the same stuff in the Democratic Party Platform from 2008 quoted earlier. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:59pm 1/9/19
        Evasive and disingenuous. What did the platform propose, and what is Trump proposing? [NT] - LehighND - 7:03pm 1/9/19
        Because I referenced my earlier post which laid out the Dem/Trump platform? - NedoftheHill - 12:56am 1/10/19
  - Do you actually know anything - WoodstockIrish - 1:36pm 1/9/19
    - I've asked a million times for some to explain what he is planning to spend the 5.6 billion on. - LehighND - 7:01pm 1/9/19
      - Um, you're asking people on this board.... - Domer From Hell - 8:37pm 1/9/19
        I doubt "Woodie" has read the plan, analyzed the economics of it. - LehighND - 12:50am 1/10/19
        Re: I doubt "Woodie" has read the plan, analyzed the economics of it. - WoodstockIrish - 12:08pm 1/10/19
      - Wall, a couple hundred border agents, and some other stuff. They gave a list of stuff on the radio. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:08pm 1/9/19
    - I balee he has an engineering degree. Do you? [NT] - Frank L - 5:17pm 1/9/19
      - I do. But, even a history degree would be useful here. - NedoftheHill - 7:03pm 1/9/19
        I'm pretty sure I am not acting like that. Do you have a link where I act like that? - LehighND - 1:01am 1/10/19
        
        Did I ask you? - Frank L - 8:32pm 1/9/19
  - Your bias is transparent. This is all about you not liking Trump. "Spoiled child"? That dog won't hu - NDavenue - 10:25am 1/9/19
    - I didn't think "spoiled child" was even contested by his supporters. [NT] - LehighND - 10:33am 1/9/19
      - It's a term of endearment in some circles. [NT] - Rooney - 11:13am 1/9/19
  - 39% favor the border wall. [LINK] - LehighND - 10:24am 1/9/19
    - That is a poorly asked question. I wonder how many of them know there already is a wall. - NedoftheHill - 12:01pm 1/9/19
- The dems are going to come out on the losing end of this ordeal... - IrishMac - 9:48am 1/9/19
  - Nope, almost 2/3rds of the country agree with them. [NT] - Frank L - 10:50am 1/9/19
- Well said. Good summary of the situation. This is all purely political, and nothing to do w/border. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:13am 1/9/19
  - The Dems are misguided and believe Trump will lose his base if he doesn't get the wall. - NDavenue - 10:30am 1/9/19
    - Actually it was Orange who was misguided over that. Went wobbly and wussy when Ann and Rush yelled - Frank L - 11:38am 1/9/19
  - So stick to the status quo? - LehighND - 10:15am 1/9/19
    - There is a wall, but perhaps the Dems would like to vote on tearing it down? Cause after all you - WoodstockIrish - 1:39pm 1/9/19
    - That is the political victory the Dems are looking for. Trump is looking for the opposite. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:54am 1/9/19