Yes. Chinese gov for all its fault, derserves credits for its restraint. Students acted like spoiled

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Yes. Chinese gov for all its fault, derserves credits for its restraint. Students acted like spoiled

Author: Eli (9248 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:38 pm on Jun 5, 2019

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kids. They occupied east side of Great Hall of the People, where traditionally and officially welcome ceremony for foreign president was held, forcing government to move welcome ceremony of Gorbachev to other place. They occupied Monument to the People's Heroes, making it their movement's headquarter, successfully ruining another scheduled event of Gorbachev, wreath laying. Chinese government made too much concessions to these spoiled kids. Stop being arrogant if you want to learn more.

Replies to: "Yes. Chinese gov for all its fault, derserves credits for its restraint. Students acted like spoiled"

Tank Man - AlbanyIRISH - 7:22pm 6/4/19 (56) [View All]
- . [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:40pm 6/5/19
- I believe you saw full footage of this tank man. It shows great restraint from Chinese military. - Eli - 2:23am 6/5/19
  - I wondered what Putin's take on Tiananmen Square was. Thanks for clearing that up. [NT] - ND_in_DRO - 8:17am 6/6/19
  - Tank Man, from accounts of those there, was later distracted & pulled out of the way. He was... - TakethetrainKnute - 3:37pm 6/5/19
    - Being pulling out of the way is possible. It's pretty common since confrontation with military was - Eli - 2:14pm 6/6/19
      - Congratulations. Because of the strict censorship, the truth is not known and likely never will be. [LINK] - TakethetrainKnute - 2:41pm 6/6/19
    - We still don't know who he is. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:39pm 6/6/19
  - Tanks for the memories. [NT] - Aragoto - 11:16am 6/5/19
    - Sure man. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:18pm 6/5/19
  - If only the U.S. Military was more like the Chinese military? - TakethetrainKnute - 9:13am 6/5/19
    - Better let video speak out. Keep it in mind, these being stoned soldiers have weapons - Eli - 1:52pm 6/5/19
      - So you believe the massacre of 800 to 4000 pro-democracy demonstrators was warranted? - TakethetrainKnute - 2:00pm 6/5/19
        I believe what I saw/experienced. The most brutal/evil thing of 30 yrs ago is the way killing [IMAGE] - Eli - 2:41pm 6/5/19
        I gave you credit for the two Super Bowls...but now I think it's time for you to hang it up, Eli... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 2:46pm 6/5/19
        OK. it's time for you to stop asking why many Chinese don't mention Tiananmen. They know it better [NT] - Eli - 3:03pm 6/5/19
        They have no idea what happened - Chris94 - 4:47pm 6/5/19
        That's a good example to beg another question: why their parents don't talk about it to them. Anyone - Eli - 5:06pm 6/5/19
        Eli, it’s not like it was covered on the nightly news - Chris94 - 9:58pm 6/5/19
        Not clear what you referred to? It's covered everyday on nightly news in those days and aftermath - Eli - 2:33pm 6/6/19
        Not in China. You can't find the image of the Tank Man on the Chinese internet. [NT] - Chris94 - 3:35pm 6/6/19
        
        This how you remember it? [NT] [IMAGE] - TakethetrainKnute - 2:47pm 6/6/19
        
        Yes, we all know why. The barbarity and propaganda forced people to shut their mouths if they know - TakethetrainKnute - 5:17pm 6/5/19
        You think you know. You don't know how you are boxed in your thinking by your ideology. [NT] - Eli - 5:58pm 6/5/19
        I suspect this is actually far more true of you. Anyway, what’s your story that makes you support . - TakethetrainKnute - 6:36pm 6/5/19
        My every post has facts. Yes, I was there from beginning (4/15) to the end. I know it very well - Eli - 2:40pm 6/6/19
        And your sound judgment from being there is that the massacre of the protesters was warranted? - TakethetrainKnute - 2:43pm 6/6/19
        Of course It's warranted. U.S. would do same if Times Square/national mall were occupied - Eli - 3:22pm 6/6/19
        Death toll of 202? As calculated by a mother in China trying to fight the tidal wave of government - TakethetrainKnute - 3:45pm 6/6/19
        A mother started it but it became org later. The investigation was done all over China for 20 yrs - Eli - 4:50pm 6/6/19
        You are either willfully ignorant or consciously evil... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:07am 6/7/19
        Your personal attack shows your cowardice to handle truth. Your rhetoric made me sick. [NT] - Eli - 5:06pm 6/7/19
        Good. I'm glad you're siick... though you should be sick from the slaughter at Tiananmen. [LINK] - TakethetrainKnute - 12:28pm 6/10/19
        
        Yeah, sure we would. Welcome to America, by the way. I assume you just got here. [NT] - Chris94 - 3:36pm 6/6/19
        I came before Waco siege. You weren't even born yet then, I assume. [NT] - Eli - 4:30pm 6/6/19
        
        Of course. They ruined Gorby’s wreath laying. In Eli’s world that is the death penalty right quick. [NT] [LINK] - Frank L - 2:59pm 6/6/19
        
        You mean they know better than to mention the subject. [NT] - Frank L - 3:26pm 6/5/19
        
        I was referring to people in general. I already know why the Chinese don't mention Tiananmen Square - TakethetrainKnute - 3:13pm 6/5/19
        
        Stop being globalist, neo con, idealist. China have right to kill own people. [NT] - Frank L - 2:06pm 6/5/19
        Eli is a big fan of Chinese take-out... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 2:11pm 6/5/19
        He has a Mongolian beef with any criticism of it. [NT] - Frank L - 2:16pm 6/5/19
        He demonstrates a wonton disregard for human life. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 2:32pm 6/5/19
        While pu puing their barbarity. [NT] - Frank L - 2:54pm 6/5/19
  - Wait - are you really praising Chinese restraint here? - Chris94 - 8:21am 6/5/19
    - Yes. Chinese gov for all its fault, derserves credits for its restraint. Students acted like spoiled - Eli - 1:38pm 6/5/19
      - Yeah, their restraint only killed 1500-5000 students - Chris94 - 2:41pm 6/5/19
        Where did you get this 1500-5000 number? from fake news? Here is the list of the dead [LINK] - Eli - 3:20pm 6/5/19
        Death toll estimations vary wildly [LINK] - Chris94 - 4:45pm 6/5/19
      - Thanks Stalin. You would have obviously handled it much better, - Frank L - 1:57pm 6/5/19
    - The perspective of a former member of the Soviet army. [NT] - Frank L - 10:01am 6/5/19
      - Just can't help your mental disorder. Go to see doctor. [NT] - Eli - 1:42pm 6/5/19
      - Chernobyl? Lies! All lies! [NT] - Chris94 - 11:23am 6/5/19
  - Wow [NT] - Iggle - 6:52am 6/5/19
    - I know you're shocked. Tank Man is a typical example of groupthink. [NT] - Eli - 1:55pm 6/5/19
      - They sealed off the square and machine-gunned thousands of people. - Iggle - 3:22pm 6/5/19
- 30 years...and has been forgotten by far too many... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 7:36pm 6/4/19
  - That photo has been expunged in China. - Iggle - 10:06pm 6/4/19