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They did that starting with Reagan. Remember the Springsteen song from 84.

Author: Frank L (64990 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:15 pm on Aug 13, 2019

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Non competitive, high wage, labor intensive manufacturing always goes away through market forces and innovation.

Replies to: "They did that starting with Reagan. Remember the Springsteen song from 84."

There seems to be some confusion. China/Xi bad, US/Trump good. Glad I cleared the air. - PBHangingChad - 2:26pm 8/13/19 (91) [View All]
- What I find most interesting is the hatred for Trump prevents the condemnation of China. It’s just - PBHangingChad - 3:09pm 8/13/19
  - What I find most interesting is no one here has praised China and you go all nutty. - jimbasil - 3:54pm 8/13/19
    - So I assume you support Trump’s taking on China’s unfair trade policies? [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:17pm 8/13/19
      - Get ready for your mind to be blown. - LehighND - 4:19pm 8/13/19
        Fine so how do you negotiate with China and change the dynamic unlike Bush and Obama? [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:33pm 8/13/19
        And Reagan who started it all. - Frank L - 4:36pm 8/13/19
        The same group that turns a blind eye to China’s trade and domestic policies. Sure. - PBHangingChad - 4:48pm 8/13/19
        You are completely irrational on this subject. - Frank L - 4:52pm 8/13/19
        Kind of like no drama Obama while our jobs move overseas. Trump is hurting China. So there is that. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:56pm 8/13/19
        Obama had steady job growth his entire presidency. - LehighND - 5:02pm 8/13/19
        Stay on China [NT] - PBHangingChad - 5:04pm 8/13/19
        You said our jobs moved overseas under Obama. - LehighND - 5:07pm 8/13/19
        Did plants in the Midwest and Southeast close and move overseas? Those people that voted for Trump. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 5:12pm 8/13/19
        Unemployment was going down. - LehighND - 5:19pm 8/13/19
        There is a difference between making cars or electronics, and serving up big macs. - NedoftheHill - 7:21pm 8/13/19
        Making electronics was moving offshore since the 60’s when the Japs started making transistors. - Frank L - 7:36pm 8/13/19
        I'm an American. It is better for the world that America survive. - NedoftheHill - 9:39pm 8/13/19
        You are whatever it serves your purpose to be. Change the system huh? Like AOC and others want to - Frank L - 10:37pm 8/13/19
        Meh. They can't be wrong all the time, can they? - NedoftheHill - 11:30pm 8/13/19
        I’m simply pointing out the lack of consistency in your positions. - Frank L - 10:14am 8/14/19
        
        They did that starting with Reagan. Remember the Springsteen song from 84. - Frank L - 5:15pm 8/13/19
        Fine so let’s go back to him. Who spoke to those forgotten Americans that both parties ignored? [NT] - PBHangingChad - 5:18pm 8/13/19
        Because he was able to play on their resentment, that makes his policies sound ones? [NT] - LehighND - 5:22pm 8/13/19
        Did it work? Did Bush or Obama solve their problems? Tell the truth. What makes Trump different [NT] - PBHangingChad - 5:24pm 8/13/19
        Unemployment went from 4.7% to 3.7%, so... - LehighND - 5:28pm 8/13/19
        Riddle me this caped crusader, what was unemployment when Barry took over? Who reduced it more? - Frank L - 5:30pm 8/13/19
        It was around 10%. Damn. I guess his China policy wasn't so bad. [NT] - LehighND - 5:31pm 8/13/19
        
        He’s nuts and a demagogue and they weren’t? [NT] - Frank L - 5:26pm 8/13/19
        And Obama wasn’t? [NT] - PBHangingChad - 5:28pm 8/13/19
        No he wasn’t, although he was many other not so good things. [NT] - Frank L - 5:29pm 8/13/19
        I’m sorry wasn’t he going to cure the planet, make the seas fall and give everyone better healthcare [NT] - PBHangingChad - 5:31pm 8/13/19
        Yup, and he even had Greek columns for his acceptance speech. So what, I always said he was full of - Frank L - 5:36pm 8/13/19
        
        Can you stay on topic at all? Also, promising shit you cant deliver to people who have been - Frank L - 5:21pm 8/13/19
        If you like your doctor, insurance, and healthcare you can keep it. Really want to go there? [NT] - PBHangingChad - 5:26pm 8/13/19
        If I had been a fan of Barrycare I wouldn’t. Since I wasn’t, sure why not. - Frank L - 5:28pm 8/13/19
        So you support China's healthcare system? Can I get an f'ing patriot in this f'ing place or what!!? [NT] - LehighND - 5:33pm 8/13/19
        Way to go PA Boy. It’s about time. Some patriotism. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 5:36pm 8/13/19
        
        You keep proving the point. How’s about yer pals W and Vice? They do anything? [NT] - Frank L - 4:59pm 8/13/19
        I’ll repeat again they did nothing just like Obama. Right stay on China today. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 5:05pm 8/13/19
        
        * [NT] - Frank L - 5:03pm 8/13/19
        Like you I can support leaders when I agree and against them when I don’t. On China he’s right. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 5:07pm 8/13/19
        
        * [NT] - Frank L - 5:06pm 8/13/19
        
        Unpossible - jimbasil - 4:22pm 8/13/19
    - They need someone to fight with all the time. No one here is praising or supporting China. [NT] - Frank L - 4:14pm 8/13/19
      - Excuse me but I remember several posters claiming that Trump taking on China would hurt America. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:16pm 8/13/19
        You can note the grass is green and that is not saying the tree leaves aren't green. [NT] - jimbasil - 4:27pm 8/13/19
        Take another hit. You might make more sense. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:36pm 8/13/19
        Read it again. English is not your first language [NT] - jimbasil - 4:40pm 8/13/19
        Same old same old. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:49pm 8/13/19
        
        That is supporting China? [NT] - LehighND - 4:20pm 8/13/19
        No but had Obama taken on China which he didn’t do in eight years he would be applauded. Right? [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:38pm 8/13/19
        
        And it is.......why do think yer Messiah just pulled back and blinked? - Frank L - 4:19pm 8/13/19
        Art of the Deal baby watch and learn [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:39pm 8/13/19
        Which deal? Has he gotten one in 3 years? [NT] - Frank L - 4:42pm 8/13/19
        Tax cuts, new NAFTA, getting NATO partners to pay more, energy independence. Not bad. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:52pm 8/13/19
        New NAFTA still in limbo and it does virtually nothing. Fracking has been going on for years. He - Frank L - 4:58pm 8/13/19
        So Canada and Mexico want it but because it’s Trump it’s bad. It’s not just fracking dopey. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 5:09pm 8/13/19
        Nope, it just doesn’t do much which is why I assume they want it. - Frank L - 5:13pm 8/13/19
        The only thing you know about oil is filing your SUV with gasoline. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 5:15pm 8/13/19
        Considering my firm handles oil and gas leasing I would say you are full of shit. [NT] - Frank L - 5:16pm 8/13/19
        Considering my company trades petroleum and owns terminals I’m glad I gave a good law firm [NT] - PBHangingChad - 5:20pm 8/13/19
        After reading some of yer stuff here, I’m glad you have one as well. [NT] - Frank L - 5:24pm 8/13/19
        
        Stay on China! [NT] - LehighND - 5:08pm 8/13/19
        
        * [NT] - Frank L - 4:43pm 8/13/19
        
        * [NT] - Frank L - 4:24pm 8/13/19
  - As Jim Cramer (no Trumpite) and Mr. Wonderful made clear last week, China is a totalitarian state - Cole - 3:48pm 8/13/19
    - Thanks Capt Obvious. And that poor guy who put the capital up didn’t know all that? - Frank L - 4:18pm 8/13/19
      - You're effectively saying that we should let China keep stealing our capital. You are lost in your - Cole - 4:20pm 8/13/19
        No, that’s not effectively what I’m saying. - Frank L - 4:33pm 8/13/19
  - WTF? Even Orange isn’t condemning them right now. - Frank L - 3:44pm 8/13/19
    - Orange Man Bad!!! [NT] - ImWearingJeanShorts - 5:11pm 8/13/19
      - Why do you keep saying bad? Well beyond that into terrible, horrendous. [NT] - Frank L - 5:32pm 8/13/19
        * [NT] - Frank L - 5:34pm 8/13/19
    - I agree he is AWOL for the time being I hope. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:18pm 8/13/19
      - You are making zero sense on this topic. - Frank L - 4:29pm 8/13/19
        My point is I have yet to see a post from you anti Trumpers on anything related to China. True? - PBHangingChad - 4:41pm 8/13/19
        WTF? There have been posts all over this subject and the trade war. [NT] - Frank L - 4:44pm 8/13/19
        Supporting Trump from you and your compadres? Show me. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:53pm 8/13/19
        You must be taking English lessons from Eli. You first asked about “any posts related to China”. - Frank L - 5:09pm 8/13/19
        
        Just a thought experiment. - LehighND - 5:05pm 8/13/19
- Journey/Boston bad, Grateful Dead/Radiohead good. [NT] - LehighND - 2:30pm 8/13/19
  - Is there actually any difference between Journey/Boston/Foreigner? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:38pm 8/13/19
    - Foreigner the best of that group. You are either too hot blooded or cold as ice to realize that. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 3:30pm 8/13/19
      - Boston is the tallest midget! - LehighND - 3:53pm 8/13/19
        Here's some more cheese - jimbasil - 4:08pm 8/13/19
        Styx. - LehighND - 4:15pm 8/13/19
    - I can't stop believing there is. It's more than a hot blooded feeling. [NT] - LehighND - 2:48pm 8/13/19
      - Toto lly. [NT] - jimbasil - 3:04pm 8/13/19
        Toto bullsh!t, Jim! - LehighND - 3:51pm 8/13/19
        You've been standing too long in the rains of Africa. Find some dry land dude. - jimbasil - 4:06pm 8/13/19
        More great lyrics - jimbasil - 4:10pm 8/13/19

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