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be sure to share your perspective with your liberal friends

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16810 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 10:49 pm on Aug 14, 2019
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Replies to: "be sure to share your perspective with your liberal friends"

  • Dow drops 800. Yield curve inverted. Trump immediately blames someone else. - LehighND - 8:32pm 8/14/19 (70) [View All]
    • Disgraceful - Nigel Tufnel - 12:15pm 8/15/19
      • His instincts are correct. His mouth is a fire hose of BS and narcissism. If he would STFU it would - PBHangingChad - 1:28pm 8/15/19
        • His instincts are shit. - Chris94 - 2:48pm 8/15/19
          • He got elected. His policies are good. His own words betray him [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:10pm 8/15/19
            • His political instincts are obviously great. Economic instincts...not so much. [NT] - Chris94 - 4:12pm 8/15/19
              • Please explain. Don’t tell me about his stupid comments [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:17pm 8/15/19
                • He is a protectionist - Chris94 - 4:53pm 8/15/19
                  • Real protectionism has never really been tried. - NedoftheHill - 5:20pm 8/15/19
                    • Like most govt interference it ends up bad. In the short term, I guess you can make an - Frank L - 5:30pm 8/15/19
          • The trade wars are easy to win comment may really haunt him. - Frank L - 3:14pm 8/15/19
            • Read my post again. We need to take on China he knows that. If he shuts his mouth it will work [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:12pm 8/15/19
              • What do you mean take on China? In an all existential trade war right now? - Frank L - 5:15pm 8/15/19
            • I hate latching onto a soundbite, though. - LehighND - 3:18pm 8/15/19
              • Campaigns are sound bites. And that one was no gaffe. He believed it. - Frank L - 3:25pm 8/15/19
                • OK, so now I'm curious. Which soundbite are you guys talking about. - NedoftheHill - 4:06pm 8/15/19
                  • "Trade wars are easy to win." - LehighND - 4:46pm 8/15/19
                    • It was an honest question. Not trying to trap you. I don't follow Trump's tweets. - NedoftheHill - 5:14pm 8/15/19
                    • Jumping in I acknowledged he’s a dope. But I still insist the policy of taking on China now is sound - PBHangingChad - 4:50pm 8/15/19
                      • One can take that position. Just don’t claim that it’s going to be easy to win to get votes. [NT] - Frank L - 5:13pm 8/15/19
    • There is no such thing as leadership. - Curly1918 - 2:29am 8/15/19
      • Actually I dont think that is true for Trump - WoodstockIrish - 2:48pm 8/15/19
    • you have for the last 60 years [NT] - Hank the Tank - 2:03am 8/15/19
      • No. I really haven't. - LehighND - 2:39am 8/15/19
    • if only the rich benefit from the market, should the 99% rejoice? [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 10:26pm 8/14/19
      • Uhm no. The rich benefit the most by many times. Lots of pension and institutional money there, - Frank L - 10:31pm 8/14/19
        • be sure to share your perspective with your liberal friends [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 10:49pm 8/14/19
          • I’m a sharing person. Just the way I roll. All are entitled to my views. [NT] - Frank L - 11:53pm 8/14/19
    • Yadda yadda this is a continuation of Obama's economy except when the Dow drops. - Cole - 9:56pm 8/14/19
      • Indeed. Trump has enjoyed the fruits of the Obama Recovery Wave. - conorlarkin - 11:24pm 8/14/19
      • Au contraire. There is a lot of good economic discussion going on here. - LehighND - 10:05pm 8/14/19
        • Yes, we recovered from your first post starting this thread. [NT] - Cole - 1:21pm 8/15/19
    • Money is pouring into the US since most of Europe and Japan have negative bond rates [NT] - PBHangingChad - 9:42pm 8/14/19
      • How does that relate to today's sell-off. [NT] - LehighND - 9:49pm 8/14/19
        • See my response below. At 1.6 on the US 10 yr money flowing into the US pushing dollar higher - PBHangingChad - 9:54pm 8/14/19
          • How does that relate to today's sell-off. [NT] - LehighND - 9:57pm 8/14/19
            • Because it’s contagion that will reduce US corporate revenues as the world slides into a recession - PBHangingChad - 10:05pm 8/14/19
              • I think I get it. [NT] - LehighND - 10:11pm 8/14/19
                • There are great US companies that meet our consumer demand. Export companies will get hurt. Dollar - PBHangingChad - 10:14pm 8/14/19
                  • Good stuff. - LehighND - 2:44am 8/15/19
        • Bonds up stocks down. [NT] - Frank L - 9:50pm 8/14/19
          • That's where I get confused. - LehighND - 9:56pm 8/14/19
            • It seems complicated but it isn’t. Right now we are the safest place to park their cash. - Frank L - 10:34pm 8/14/19
              • That's not the tricky part - LehighND - 1:39am 8/15/19
                • Because when the bond market goes up, stocks go down. They aren’t interested in investing in - Frank L - 12:46pm 8/15/19
                  • Let's look at it like a math problem. - LehighND - 3:25pm 8/15/19
                    • Because bonds are always seen as a safe haven when there is a bear market. - Frank L - 3:30pm 8/15/19
            • It’s about algorithms. Computers sell a reverse yield signal. Look at Qtr returns for US company’s. - PBHangingChad - 10:08pm 8/14/19
    • Fun fact - there are like nine states who will be near bankruptcy even if a mild recession hits us [NT] - Hank Scorpio - 8:59pm 8/14/19
      • This is the problem. There’s no cushion this time. We are QE, easy money tapped out. [NT] - Frank L - 9:01pm 8/14/19
        • May have to go back to Obama’s zero rate environment [NT] - PBHangingChad - 9:43pm 8/14/19
          • We aren’t that far off of it already. A decent, growing economy should be able to absorb mild rate - Frank L - 9:45pm 8/14/19
            • Have you been watching what’s going on in EU countries, Japan, China, Argentina? - PBHangingChad - 9:52pm 8/14/19
    • He doesn't lead. He watches Fox and he tweets. [NT] - golfernot - 8:44pm 8/14/19
      • While I totally agree... I feel that leadership is a myth - Curly1918 - 2:19am 8/15/19
    • Would it be something if a POTUS had a press conference after something like that: "It's my fault." [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:36pm 8/14/19
      • Baron could write an honest speech for him that would be defensible and noble. - LehighND - 8:40pm 8/14/19
        • The trade war didn’t cause this. Germany and others are in a recession with negative yields [NT] - PBHangingChad - 9:45pm 8/14/19
          • Those negative yields didn't just happen today. [NT] - LehighND - 9:50pm 8/14/19
            • Did something happen in the tradewar today? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:03am 8/15/19
              • Apparently so. Germany went into recession. [NT] - LehighND - 2:36am 8/15/19
            • No the German economic data on Monday confirmed they are in a recession - PBHangingChad - 9:58pm 8/14/19
              • How does that relate to today's sell-off. [NT] - LehighND - 10:02pm 8/14/19
                • Look at some of my posts above. We are the cleanest shirt in a dirty laundry basket. But their dirt - PBHangingChad - 10:10pm 8/14/19
                  • Let's hope our rates are high enough to be able to cut them adequately. - LehighND - 10:14pm 8/14/19
                    • Our rates are still on the positive side but not by much. Still better than being negative. - PBHangingChad - 10:18pm 8/14/19
          • Maybe not caused. But it has contributed. A lot of this is confidence or lack thereof. - Frank L - 9:49pm 8/14/19
            • I’ll grant you his stupid and mostly idiotic texts are not helping. Like calling off the tariffs a - PBHangingChad - 10:00pm 8/14/19
        • Pretty good. But too many big words for Orange. - golfernot - 8:49pm 8/14/19
    • Some numbers: [LINK] - Chris94 - 8:35pm 8/14/19
      • Bush. [NT] - Cole - 9:52pm 8/14/19

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