OT but relevant. Another masterpiece by VDH on America's universities

Eli 9905 posts Original UHND Member

Posted 10:08 pm on Sep 7, 2019

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Link: https://amgreatness.com/2019/09/01/from-icon-to-just-a-con/

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OT but relevant. Another masterpiece by VDH on America's universitiesNTLink Eli 10:08pm · 9/7/19
- Professor Hanson is shouting into the wind Curly1918 9:59am · 9/8/19
- VDH essays are always welcome. No one has had a better bead on American politics... MAS 12:21am · 9/8/19
  - He gets it, I love to see interviews with him. Not one liberal professor could handle him in a THEISMANCARR 12:51pm · 9/8/19
  - Why do people pay great sums of money for humanities or social science degrees? NedoftheHill 10:13am · 9/8/19
    - Amen.NT BaronVonZemo 6:38am · 9/9/19
    - tax write-offNT Hank the Tank 2:34pm · 9/8/19
      - Not tax deductibleNT NedoftheHill 6:10pm · 9/8/19
    - It's even more reprehensible at the graduate level. MAS 2:04pm · 9/8/19
      - Fact check: PhD programs do not result in debt Chris94 10:28pm · 9/8/19
        
        Untrue MAS 11:46pm · 9/8/19
        
        Small loans might be necessary to get you through. Not crushing debt. Chris94 12:32am · 9/9/19
        
        “Crushing debt” is relative to what they will make for their degree.NT BaronVonZemo 6:39am · 9/9/19
        
        He wrote “more reprehensible.” Which is ridiculous.NT Chris94 7:46am · 9/9/19
      - do I recall you are a teacher?NT irishscooter 4:48pm · 9/8/19
        
        Yes: Mr. Hand.NT MAS 4:56pm · 9/8/19
        
        A noble profession with many non-monetary benefits. Do you irishscooter 5:09pm · 9/8/19
        
        Don't over-romanticize it. MAS 5:22pm · 9/8/19
        
        I was just trying to make you feel better since you seem irishscooter 6:07pm · 9/8/19
        
        fantastic little treatise. und67 5:45pm · 9/8/19
    - Because it’s education, not training Chris94 10:18am · 9/8/19
      - it should be. But the sheer cost has changed the dynamic. Sad...but the universities have done thisNT TakethetrainKnute 8:31pm · 9/8/19
        
        I don’t disagreeNT Chris94 8:33pm · 9/8/19
      - Let me put it this way. Liberal Arts is a fine art, shouldn't & couldn't be mass produced. Eli 11:55am · 9/8/19
        
        An undergrad degree shouldn’t be mass produced in any discipline. Frank L 12:09pm · 9/8/19
        
        Nobody is mass producing anything Chris94 12:08pm · 9/8/19
        
        My original point is that it is not for everyone. NedoftheHill 12:58pm · 9/8/19
        
        “Big Education.” Right.NT Chris94 5:37pm · 9/8/19
        
        Just "Big Ed"...NT TakethetrainKnute 10:08pm · 9/9/19
        
        Why would you use this on others and not have it apply to your field? It is accurate.NT BaronVonZemo 6:44am · 9/9/19
        
        Really? You are going to let that stop you from making a substantive response? NedoftheHill 6:12pm · 9/8/19
      - I concur. Even for the hard/professional degrees, college is for education not training. Curly1918 11:40am · 9/8/19
        
        OK, but that is not how it is used today.NT NedoftheHill 12:53pm · 9/8/19
        
        It is in the hard subjects. As to the liberal arts... I'm not sure what Plato had to say about... Curly1918 6:02pm · 9/8/19
      - That is a nice sentiment, but I don't buy it. NedoftheHill 10:29am · 9/8/19
        
        I think you glossed over a key point. iairishcheeks 12:21pm · 9/8/19
        
        Indebted, and therefore politically enslaved, lumps of clay. NedoftheHill 12:53pm · 9/8/19
        
        Again, it is not meant to be a financial investment Chris94 10:37am · 9/8/19
        
        I am sorry, but that is utter BS, especially since the internet can provide this for free.NT BaronVonZemo 6:48am · 9/9/19
        
        I've been holding onto this one for a while..NTLink iairishcheeks 2:35pm · 9/8/19
        
        I think I posted that before. Interesting point of view.NT Frank L 2:38pm · 9/8/19
        
        Do the poor have the latitude to invest a $100k in their soul? No, they do not. NedoftheHill 12:44pm · 9/8/19
        
        The poor have the advantage, many just don't realize it. iairishcheeks 2:38pm · 9/8/19
        
        They don’t need to. They will get schollys if they are committed.NT Frank L 1:18pm · 9/8/19
        
        Let me add this: That is an outdated sentiment. If valid once, it is not valid now. NedoftheHill 10:35am · 9/8/19
        
        I think it depends on the student. Frank L 11:11am · 9/8/19
        
        But both of your kids with humanities degrees WoodstockIrish 1:23pm · 9/9/19
        
        Each of your kids got training in a discipline that is marketable (Law, Law and Finance). NedoftheHill 12:42pm · 9/8/19
        
        The first would be quite marketable with just the MPP. She got both degrees in a 2 for 1 package. Frank L 1:17pm · 9/8/19
        
        Both of your humanities majors when to graduate school to get training for their field of employment NedoftheHill 11:04am · 9/9/19
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        They are not just fine. MAS 1:59pm · 9/8/19
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