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I concur. Even for the hard/professional degrees, college is for education not training.
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Curly1918
(13799 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 11:40 am on Sep 8, 2019
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Training has to be hands-on in real-life situations.
Replies to: "I concur. Even for the hard/professional degrees, college is for education not training."
MIT covered up its relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
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MAS
- 9:49pm 9/7/19
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Ronan Farrow is an actual reporter - very rare. Universities are completely beholden to $$
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BaronVonZemo
- 6:34am 9/9/19
OT but relevant. Another masterpiece by VDH on America's universities
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Eli
- 10:08pm 9/7/19
Professor Hanson is shouting into the wind
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Curly1918
- 9:59am 9/8/19
VDH essays are always welcome. No one has had a better bead on American politics...
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MAS
- 12:21am 9/8/19
He gets it, I love to see interviews with him. Not one liberal professor could handle him in a
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THEISMANCARR
- 12:51pm 9/8/19
Why do people pay great sums of money for humanities or social science degrees?
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NedoftheHill
- 10:13am 9/8/19
Amen.
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BaronVonZemo
- 6:38am 9/9/19
tax write-off
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Hank the Tank
- 2:34pm 9/8/19
Not tax deductible
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NedoftheHill
- 6:10pm 9/8/19
It's even more reprehensible at the graduate level.
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MAS
- 2:04pm 9/8/19
Fact check: PhD programs do not result in debt
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Chris94
- 10:28pm 9/8/19
Untrue
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MAS
- 11:46pm 9/8/19
Small loans might be necessary to get you through. Not crushing debt.
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Chris94
- 12:32am 9/9/19
“Crushing debt” is relative to what they will make for their degree.
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BaronVonZemo
- 6:39am 9/9/19
He wrote “more reprehensible.” Which is ridiculous.
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Chris94
- 7:46am 9/9/19
do I recall you are a teacher?
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irishscooter
- 4:48pm 9/8/19
Yes: Mr. Hand.
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MAS
- 4:56pm 9/8/19
A noble profession with many non-monetary benefits. Do you
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irishscooter
- 5:09pm 9/8/19
Don't over-romanticize it.
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MAS
- 5:22pm 9/8/19
I was just trying to make you feel better since you seem
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irishscooter
- 6:07pm 9/8/19
fantastic little treatise.
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und67
- 5:45pm 9/8/19
Because it’s education, not training
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Chris94
- 10:18am 9/8/19
it should be. But the sheer cost has changed the dynamic. Sad...but the universities have done this
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TakethetrainKnute
- 8:31pm 9/8/19
I don’t disagree
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Chris94
- 8:33pm 9/8/19
Let me put it this way. Liberal Arts is a fine art, shouldn't & couldn't be mass produced.
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Eli
- 11:55am 9/8/19
An undergrad degree shouldn’t be mass produced in any discipline.
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Frank L
- 12:09pm 9/8/19
Nobody is mass producing anything
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Chris94
- 12:08pm 9/8/19
My original point is that it is not for everyone.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:58pm 9/8/19
“Big Education.” Right.
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Chris94
- 5:37pm 9/8/19
Just "Big Ed"...
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TakethetrainKnute
- 10:08pm 9/9/19
Why would you use this on others and not have it apply to your field? It is accurate.
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BaronVonZemo
- 6:44am 9/9/19
Really? You are going to let that stop you from making a substantive response?
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NedoftheHill
- 6:12pm 9/8/19
I concur. Even for the hard/professional degrees, college is for education not training.
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Curly1918
- 11:40am 9/8/19
OK, but that is not how it is used today.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:53pm 9/8/19
It is in the hard subjects. As to the liberal arts... I'm not sure what Plato had to say about...
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Curly1918
- 6:02pm 9/8/19
That is a nice sentiment, but I don't buy it.
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NedoftheHill
- 10:29am 9/8/19
I think you glossed over a key point.
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iairishcheeks
- 12:21pm 9/8/19
Indebted, and therefore politically enslaved, lumps of clay.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:53pm 9/8/19
Again, it is not meant to be a financial investment
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Chris94
- 10:37am 9/8/19
I am sorry, but that is utter BS, especially since the internet can provide this for free.
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BaronVonZemo
- 6:48am 9/9/19
I've been holding onto this one for a while..
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iairishcheeks
- 2:35pm 9/8/19
I think I posted that before. Interesting point of view.
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Frank L
- 2:38pm 9/8/19
Do the poor have the latitude to invest a $100k in their soul? No, they do not.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:44pm 9/8/19
The poor have the advantage, many just don't realize it.
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iairishcheeks
- 2:38pm 9/8/19
They don’t need to. They will get schollys if they are committed.
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Frank L
- 1:18pm 9/8/19
Let me add this: That is an outdated sentiment. If valid once, it is not valid now.
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NedoftheHill
- 10:35am 9/8/19
I think it depends on the student.
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Frank L
- 11:11am 9/8/19
But both of your kids with humanities degrees
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WoodstockIrish
- 1:23pm 9/9/19
Each of your kids got training in a discipline that is marketable (Law, Law and Finance).
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NedoftheHill
- 12:42pm 9/8/19
The first would be quite marketable with just the MPP. She got both degrees in a 2 for 1 package.
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Frank L
- 1:17pm 9/8/19
Both of your humanities majors when to graduate school to get training for their field of employment
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NedoftheHill
- 11:04am 9/9/19
That is true. But so do many STEM majors to fulfill their plan.
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Frank L
- 2:34pm 9/9/19
"Some may actually come out educated." The right end of the bell curve will, and will get a job.
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NedoftheHill
- 4:09pm 9/9/19
I don’t think we are either. The left and center aren’t going far whether they go to undergrad or
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Frank L
- 4:29pm 9/9/19
They are not just fine.
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MAS
- 1:59pm 9/8/19
You are mixing apples and oranges.
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Frank L
- 2:12pm 9/8/19
Neither am I.
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MAS
- 2:47pm 9/8/19