It is not as norticible with Bill because he is much smoother.  Bill reminds me of some of the really good Southern salesmen I have known over the years.  I am a former New Yorker but I couldn't put up with Donald's obvious bull shit for more than 5 minutes.  Donald does not have enough respect for his audience to put together a coherent presentation.  He just wings it and expects his audience to believe him.
            
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