Oh, and as for quoting Baron...I've got BVZ's own posts that convict him of violating a number of

his Hypocritical 'Rules'...just ask and I'll provide them...one even convinced Jakers into a "Fair Enough" agreement that he was the one lying on a thread...not me.

In essence, Baron is a 'Master Projectionist' always accusing others of his own faults.