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So, we agree our differences are on policy. Stop with the "You deny climate change" bullshit.

Author: NedoftheHill (44713 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)
Posted at 12:56 am on Mar 10, 2022
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That is just an ad hominem attack. Logical fallacies are used to support arguments that cannot be supported with logic. You show weakness when you say that.

We disagree on expected harm, magnitude of expected harm, urgency of need for action, and what types of action are warranted. None of those things are dictated by science as fact. I can disagree with your entire policy, without "denying climate change."

Policy makers use science as an input to the decision process. We elect policy makers who weigh the inputs, and decide the policies. That's the way it should be for climate change. That's the way it should be for pandemics. You guys always try to denigrate and diminish your opponent by saying your opponents deny science, when, of course, they are not denying science at all, they are just disagreeing with you on policies. Science does not dictate government action.

So far, the policies I see implemented just benefit Dem donors and gin up the Dem voters with fears, while not solving the global problem. When you have a global solution, come talk to me. When you are counseling for government austerity, I will know you are serious. I have said many times I would cut every government program 20% on day one, and reduce further. Once we get our financial house in order, we can do something...but only if other nations follow, and of course, they will not. So, we should just work on adaptation, not tilting at windmills like you want us to do.

Fossil fuels will run low eventually. Until then, we should work on will replace them. I support nuclear, of course. It is the cleanest energy production we have (although, we need to use reactors that won't meltdown if electricity gets cut to them suddenly, like Fukushima, and almost every reactor in the US.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

Replies to: "So, we agree our differences are on policy. Stop with the "You deny climate change" bullshit."

  • Here's our problem:CoHandler Kerry claims "Climate refugees will be way worse than Ukraine refugees" [IMAGE] - BaronVonZemo - 5:17pm 3/9/22 (36) [View All]
    • We're over covid. On to Ukraine. Puppet Zelensky will sacrifice more Ukrainians for his handlers [NT] - eftg1 - 7:32pm 3/9/22
    • For Baron, or anyone else...on what basis do you deny Climate Change?...please use substantive data - TyroneIrish - 7:15pm 3/9/22
      • My house sits on top of a hill...the hill was formed by the leading edge of a glacier...I don't deny - TakethetrainKnute - 10:09pm 3/9/22
        • I’m sure no one wishes to see glaciers return to your backyard on Long Island - jimbasil - 4:14am 3/10/22
        • Check out the chart in the link I provided...notice a sudden spike in our CO2 level?...see anything - TyroneIrish - 1:15am 3/10/22
      • Who denies climate change? The earth has been warming since the last ice age. It cooled before that. - NedoftheHill - 9:04pm 3/9/22
        • All of the changes you speak of happened within a CO2 band of 180-300 ppm...we're climbing past 416 [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 10:36pm 3/9/22
          • So, we agree our differences are on policy. Stop with the "You deny climate change" bullshit. - NedoftheHill - 12:56am 3/10/22
            • We've got two sub-threads going here...but it seems we have agreement that mankind is pushing - TyroneIrish - 3:34am 3/10/22
              • I will let the below thread continue. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:21pm 3/10/22
        • To your point, I live in Northeast PA. There’s a state park Hickory Run that in the middle of the - jray - 10:00pm 3/9/22
          • Indeed. And the glacier didn't recede because of anything man was doing 10,000 years ago. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:37pm 3/9/22
            • Exactly [NT] - jray - 10:46pm 3/9/22
      • Super awesome of you to trumpet your shitbird ideas on a daily basis, but other must show their work - Stark Raving Dad - 7:52pm 3/9/22
        • Ok...so you don't have anything to add...anyone else care to back up their opinions with data? - TyroneIrish - 8:30pm 3/9/22
          • Given that, how much hotter on average will it be in 10 years? 20 years? 50 years? 100 years? - NedoftheHill - 9:08pm 3/9/22
            • One of your more earnest deflections, Ned...where is your data?...how are you able to say there will - TyroneIrish - 9:59pm 3/9/22
              • You failed to answer the questions. Of course. - NedoftheHill - 10:45pm 3/9/22
                • Just ignore Tyrone. He preaches climate change and he didn’t even get his - MuskyTommy - 11:26pm 3/9/22
                  • Yeah. I usually do. Not sure what got into me tonight. I'm not even drinking. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:22am 3/10/22
                • Hold on, Ned...what exactly do you see us agreeing on?...if it is indeed 'Global Warming' or - TyroneIrish - 10:53pm 3/9/22
                  • There you go again, mixing concepts. - NedoftheHill - 1:03am 3/10/22
                    • Ok...excellent...we agree that mankind is pumping CO2 into the atmosphere with the burning of - TyroneIrish - 1:54am 3/10/22
                      • Preservation of fossil fuels is something to consider even apart from global warming. - NedoftheHill - 1:20pm 3/10/22
                        • Let's just focus on the part we seem to agree on...FFs are vital and this planet only has ~47 yrs of [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 3:10pm 3/10/22
              • Then save yourself the agony and just go the fuck away. - Stark Raving Dad - 10:32pm 3/9/22
                • Stark, that brought a tear to my eye! Nice job [NT] - ColeyO - 11:24pm 3/9/22
                • You're very good at ranting...so far, nothing of substance that 'debunks' the 'Climate Change' issue - TyroneIrish - 10:47pm 3/9/22
                  • You have been caught lying here many times, I doubt you ever went to ND. [NT] - notredame678 - 11:51pm 3/9/22
                  • And your beliefs bring shame to that university. Pig. - Stark Raving Dad - 10:54pm 3/9/22
                    • Look, it's abundantly clear that you don't like my views on any number of matters...that's fine - TyroneIrish - 2:10am 3/10/22
    • He’s turned the tone deaf amp to 11. [NT] - Curly1918 - 7:04pm 3/9/22
    • Can we call Californians who move to Texas "Liberalism Refugees"? [NT] - Cole - 5:22pm 3/9/22
      • Let's call them unwelcome. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:46pm 3/9/22
      • Don’t Californicate Texas [NT] - LanceManion - 6:43pm 3/9/22
      • Can we extend the southern border wall to the eastern boundary of California? [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 6:02pm 3/9/22
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