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We've got two sub-threads going here...but it seems we have agreement that mankind is pushing

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 3:34 am on Mar 10, 2022
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atmospheric CO2 levels far above what they have been for 800,000 years...and, if we don't stop what we're doing right now, we're headed for a doubling of that concentration in 80 years..

We know for sure that glaciers will melt...indeed, reports show them melting already...also, established agricultural regions are under stress now...I viewed a report on, I think it was '60 Minutes that showed numerous vineyards in France were suffering from a fungus due to warmer temperatures and their entire crop was ruined...first time ever...while at the same time, new vineyards in England were now producing the exact same grapes...i.e. the climate had shifted north by just enough to make them successful...a small, but telling example of what the future might hold..

In truth, we don't know exactly what the problems will be, or how significant each one could be...but we know they COULD be massive, IF we keep pumping unnaturally high levels of CO2 into the atmosphere...it's not very smart to appreciate that the potential damage could indeed be large and simply not do anything about it.

Also, given that oil and gas supplies are limited, why burn them up when other energy sources can provide the same benefit without producing CO2?...The Democratic Party has been crystal clear on their policy...shift our energy strategy away from FFs to Nuclear and Renewables (where appropriate)...however, in a representative democracy, those things don't get done without legislation, and right now, the GOP has not publicized a strategy...in fact, all the CC deniers are Republicans...so they are impeding any serious progress...personally, I think there are responsible GOPers who would support the same plan as the Dems (e.g. the bi-partisan Infrastructure Bill has significant funding for new GEN-IV reactors), so there is hope...IF responsible legislators are elected and not the Trump followers, who by definition, are irresponsible. (Note: the Dems have their own issues with a fringe element of rabid anti-nukes)

To me, it's an easy call...a) we forestall a major shock to our planet's ecosystem, and b) save our precious FFs for their unique uses for millennia by recycling them instead of destroying them...by switching over to Nuclear and Renewables for heat and transportation.

We need to come together on this to speed the creation of a strategy and plan of action that takes EVERYONE into account...even those in the O&G industry who have helped get our civilization to this point...I thank them for all the good that they've done (in spite of some not-so-good things)...and hope that this transition creates as little pain as possible.


Replies to: "We've got two sub-threads going here...but it seems we have agreement that mankind is pushing"

  • Here's our problem:CoHandler Kerry claims "Climate refugees will be way worse than Ukraine refugees" [IMAGE] - BaronVonZemo - 5:17pm 3/9/22 (36) [View All]
    • We're over covid. On to Ukraine. Puppet Zelensky will sacrifice more Ukrainians for his handlers [NT] - eftg1 - 7:32pm 3/9/22
    • For Baron, or anyone else...on what basis do you deny Climate Change?...please use substantive data - TyroneIrish - 7:15pm 3/9/22
      • My house sits on top of a hill...the hill was formed by the leading edge of a glacier...I don't deny - TakethetrainKnute - 10:09pm 3/9/22
        • I’m sure no one wishes to see glaciers return to your backyard on Long Island - jimbasil - 4:14am 3/10/22
        • Check out the chart in the link I provided...notice a sudden spike in our CO2 level?...see anything - TyroneIrish - 1:15am 3/10/22
      • Who denies climate change? The earth has been warming since the last ice age. It cooled before that. - NedoftheHill - 9:04pm 3/9/22
        • All of the changes you speak of happened within a CO2 band of 180-300 ppm...we're climbing past 416 [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 10:36pm 3/9/22
          • So, we agree our differences are on policy. Stop with the "You deny climate change" bullshit. - NedoftheHill - 12:56am 3/10/22
            • We've got two sub-threads going here...but it seems we have agreement that mankind is pushing - TyroneIrish - 3:34am 3/10/22
              • I will let the below thread continue. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:21pm 3/10/22
        • To your point, I live in Northeast PA. There’s a state park Hickory Run that in the middle of the - jray - 10:00pm 3/9/22
          • Indeed. And the glacier didn't recede because of anything man was doing 10,000 years ago. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:37pm 3/9/22
            • Exactly [NT] - jray - 10:46pm 3/9/22
      • Super awesome of you to trumpet your shitbird ideas on a daily basis, but other must show their work - Stark Raving Dad - 7:52pm 3/9/22
        • Ok...so you don't have anything to add...anyone else care to back up their opinions with data? - TyroneIrish - 8:30pm 3/9/22
          • Given that, how much hotter on average will it be in 10 years? 20 years? 50 years? 100 years? - NedoftheHill - 9:08pm 3/9/22
            • One of your more earnest deflections, Ned...where is your data?...how are you able to say there will - TyroneIrish - 9:59pm 3/9/22
              • You failed to answer the questions. Of course. - NedoftheHill - 10:45pm 3/9/22
                • Just ignore Tyrone. He preaches climate change and he didn’t even get his - MuskyTommy - 11:26pm 3/9/22
                  • Yeah. I usually do. Not sure what got into me tonight. I'm not even drinking. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:22am 3/10/22
                • Hold on, Ned...what exactly do you see us agreeing on?...if it is indeed 'Global Warming' or - TyroneIrish - 10:53pm 3/9/22
                  • There you go again, mixing concepts. - NedoftheHill - 1:03am 3/10/22
                    • Ok...excellent...we agree that mankind is pumping CO2 into the atmosphere with the burning of - TyroneIrish - 1:54am 3/10/22
                      • Preservation of fossil fuels is something to consider even apart from global warming. - NedoftheHill - 1:20pm 3/10/22
                        • Let's just focus on the part we seem to agree on...FFs are vital and this planet only has ~47 yrs of [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 3:10pm 3/10/22
              • Then save yourself the agony and just go the fuck away. - Stark Raving Dad - 10:32pm 3/9/22
                • Stark, that brought a tear to my eye! Nice job [NT] - ColeyO - 11:24pm 3/9/22
                • You're very good at ranting...so far, nothing of substance that 'debunks' the 'Climate Change' issue - TyroneIrish - 10:47pm 3/9/22
                  • You have been caught lying here many times, I doubt you ever went to ND. [NT] - notredame678 - 11:51pm 3/9/22
                  • And your beliefs bring shame to that university. Pig. - Stark Raving Dad - 10:54pm 3/9/22
                    • Look, it's abundantly clear that you don't like my views on any number of matters...that's fine - TyroneIrish - 2:10am 3/10/22
    • He’s turned the tone deaf amp to 11. [NT] - Curly1918 - 7:04pm 3/9/22
    • Can we call Californians who move to Texas "Liberalism Refugees"? [NT] - Cole - 5:22pm 3/9/22
      • Let's call them unwelcome. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:46pm 3/9/22
      • Don’t Californicate Texas [NT] - LanceManion - 6:43pm 3/9/22
      • Can we extend the southern border wall to the eastern boundary of California? [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 6:02pm 3/9/22
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