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You make no sense.

Author: NedoftheHill (32318 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:06 pm on Nov 18, 2020

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I'm fine with using the term "whataboutism" when it is used to expose hypocrisy.

I'm also fine with using the concept of "whataboutism" if one is arguing for a level playing field.

But, when people use the term to silence a defense of Trump, such as "You can't defend Trump doing X on the basis that Obama did X." ...well, that is bogus. If Obama did X and X was ok when he did it, then yes, it is ok for Trump to do it, unless and until the person saying that says they condemn Obama for doing X as well. Below, you tried to use it on me (what about Trump's pork spending, you said, to stop me from criticizing paying for gender studies degrees, something apparently very cherished by you), but I embraced the attack: I would cut all spending, not just the spending I think is moronic. Your attack failed. But, you probably didn't even notice.

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Replies to: "You make no sense."

Holy Cow! Trump is pressuring governors and legislators to take over election. - Hibakusha - 2:28pm 11/18/20 (31) [View All]
- Typical move by a dictator. [NT] - Frank L - 2:58pm 11/18/20
  - Dictators running in an election? But, if he is a dictator, that means the election is fake. - NedoftheHill - 3:01pm 11/18/20
    - Pretty simple position. Do you support a President coercing state legislators to flip his election. [NT] - Hibakusha - 9:01pm 11/18/20
      - How is he coercing them? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:15am 11/19/20
    - The modern dictator runs elections. He merely undermines them and makes sure he wins. - Chris94 - 3:23pm 11/18/20
    - . [NT] - Frank L - 3:09pm 11/18/20
      - Before you also change this post it means you have already made two whatabout posts in this thread. [NT] - Frank L - 3:09pm 11/18/20
        So? Whataboutism is a useful way to expose hypocrisy. - NedoftheHill - 3:10pm 11/18/20
        No. Whataboutism is a simple-minded surrender to immorality. - Chris94 - 4:02pm 11/18/20
        Great. Then Trump's actions will justify none of Biden's. Hiba, Jim & Frank won't like that. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:20pm 11/18/20
        
        It’s a more useful way to express it. [NT] - Frank L - 3:11pm 11/18/20
        Or, for you to expose that you don't understand the main point of my posts. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:16pm 11/18/20
        The point that when you use it, it’s good, but not so when used by others. - Frank L - 3:18pm 11/18/20
        That point is that when I use the term, I am using it to expose your hypocrisy, not to justify Trump - NedoftheHill - 3:21pm 11/18/20
        Oh, okay Ned. only YOU use it to expose hypocrisy. Everyone else uses it inappropriately - Frank L - 3:25pm 11/18/20
        You're the bestest! [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:28pm 11/18/20
        I know that Ned, You don’t need to be so obvious about it. [NT] - Frank L - 3:30pm 11/18/20
      - . [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:09pm 11/18/20
        Soooo, you complaining about whataboutism is a joke, Ned. [NT] - Frank L - 3:10pm 11/18/20
        I'm actually not complaining about whataboutism. I'm complaining about... - NedoftheHill - 3:17pm 11/18/20
        Uhm no Ned, quite to the contrary. - Frank L - 3:20pm 11/18/20
    - Good example of why you complaining about whataboutisim is so humorous. Two already in a five post - Frank L - 3:04pm 11/18/20
      - You make no sense. - NedoftheHill - 3:06pm 11/18/20
        This post needs some grammar help Ned. Not to be snarky, but it makes no sense. [NT] - Frank L - 3:16pm 11/18/20
        You want me to edit it? Done. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:21pm 11/18/20
        The English language thanks you. - Frank L - 3:29pm 11/18/20
        I'm just glad we have you on record that you want me to edit my posts more. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:37pm 11/18/20
        Fair point. Sometimes all the editing in the world just won’t save the effort. - Frank L - 3:42pm 11/18/20
- His only chance is to convince three leglisatures to name their states' electors - Chris94 - 2:44pm 11/18/20
  - The real people that were fooled were the Democrats with common sense who felt the need to vote - THEISMANCARR - 4:09pm 11/18/20
  - "deeply corrosive to democratic norms" ... good phrase to remember. - NedoftheHill - 3:00pm 11/18/20