It's interesting how the criticism has evolved.

| Register

It's interesting how the criticism has evolved.

Author: iairishcheeks (25165 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:53 am on Apr 22, 2022

View All

First it was mis-characterized as "Don't Say Gay!", leading many to confusion about the actual law.

Then it was "It's a solution seeking a problem." Of course no one would teach sex ed to K-3.

Now it's "The Netherlands is doing it and look at this kook study."

I don't know if people like Tyrone really think this is a good idea, or if it's just blind political loyalty to the cause.

Replies to: "It's interesting how the criticism has evolved."

This is what some here want to teach our kids. [LINK] - Stark Raving Dad - 8:56pm 4/21/22 (72) [View All]
- It's interesting how the criticism has evolved. - iairishcheeks - 10:53am 4/22/22
  - Some of us (moi) actually go out to seek more information on a topic that hasn't been on our radars - TyroneIrish - 12:00pm 4/22/22
    - First the debate has to take place between groups or individuals arguing in good faith. - iairishcheeks - 1:27pm 4/22/22
      - Speak plainly, Cheeks...what thought train are you trying to lay out?...i.e. what's your point? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 1:48pm 4/22/22
        Read this post: [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 2:53pm 4/22/22
        I've done the research and am convinced that the Netherlands has a better approach than Ron DeSantis - TyroneIrish - 3:21pm 4/22/22
- Amazing how a few facts of life (i.e. Netherlands 'Sex Ed' at 4 yrs, and low teen pregnancies) shuts - TyroneIrish - 10:35am 4/22/22
  - You're a frightening individual. I pray for the safety of those around you. - Stark Raving Dad - 10:48am 4/22/22
    - Let's dispense with the histrionics and talk about the issue here...is it not true that in - TyroneIrish - 11:36am 4/22/22
  - That's all they've got. Eff the facts, Eff the truth - they're willing to go the extra mile as a - jimbasil - 10:38am 4/22/22
    - All one can do is continue to shine a light on the truth...and hope for the best. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 10:46am 4/22/22
      - That's the most frightening. You believe you're speaking the truth. - Stark Raving Dad - 10:49am 4/22/22
        I"m giving you data from the EU...I didn't make any of it up...what do you have to say - TyroneIrish - 11:41am 4/22/22
        Oh I am quite certain you are not making it up. - Stark Raving Dad - 12:41pm 4/22/22
        When, and if, you ever calm down, we can hopefully discuss such topics in a respectful and adult - TyroneIrish - 1:54pm 4/22/22
        You and Jim share this in common. - Stark Raving Dad - 2:23pm 4/22/22
        That's odd - you and Tampa are always letting us know we're angry and so on. - jimbasil - 3:17pm 4/22/22
        Oh dear. Well thank you for proving my point. - Stark Raving Dad - 3:29pm 4/22/22
        
        I think the proper term for that is "Projection", with a heavy dose of "Insecurity" [NT] - TyroneIrish - 3:25pm 4/22/22
        It's actually neither. So please, my friend Jim and I are chatting. So, if you don't mind. [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 3:31pm 4/22/22
        LOL...all of us...and definitely including you..."chime in" from time to time...carry on ;-). [NT] - TyroneIrish - 4:34pm 4/22/22
- In 2000, 1 in 10k people identified as transgender; today 1 in 50. - LanceManion - 8:44am 4/22/22
- Egregious. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:23am 4/22/22
- Does it follow that children below 4th grade ought not be exposed to alcohol or tobacco? - conorlarkin - 6:43am 4/22/22
  - Connor you know I love ya, but these issues are chalk and cheese. [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 10:20am 4/22/22
  - Help me out: Which of those things are government/citizen-funded? - jakers - 10:13am 4/22/22
- Here is a segment on the Netherlands from my earlier EU data link...note the ages for instruction... [LINK] [IMAGE] - TyroneIrish - 2:35am 4/22/22
  - Weed leads to fewer teenage pregnancies, abortions, births and miscarriages. - iairishcheeks - 4:17am 4/22/22
    - LOL...I don't think the Dutch start their 4 yr olds on weed ;-)...again, early education on - TyroneIrish - 10:42am 4/22/22
      - Who decides what is age appropriate? - iairishcheeks - 10:46am 4/22/22
        Excellent question...IMO, we should be consulting with those countries in the EU who have been - TyroneIrish - 11:44am 4/22/22
        I'm a federalist, let the states decide or maybe even more local. - iairishcheeks - 12:54pm 4/22/22
        Then you should agree that DeSantis should NOT be forcing this mandate on local school boards... - TyroneIrish - 2:43pm 4/22/22
        There is no control group against which to judge the Netherlands results, they are meaningless. - iairishcheeks - 2:51pm 4/22/22
        If you even just scan the EU report and the Guttmacher data you you'll see a strong - TyroneIrish - 3:15pm 4/22/22
        I post on the subject as it relates to your lies. - Stark Raving Dad - 3:53pm 4/22/22
        Keeping things substantive, I've presented significant data from the EU and Guttmacher showing that - TyroneIrish - 7:13pm 4/22/22
    - Stronger correlation with wooden shoes... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 6:57am 4/22/22
      - Tyrone can explain any correlation and its inverse. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:54am 4/22/22
- See my post below...several EU countries begin sexuality instruction in the K-3 age group...with - TyroneIrish - 12:17am 4/22/22
  - Sounds like recruitment. Teach the young kids it’s ok and then more of them will be like us and - Protagonist - 1:20am 4/22/22
  - This board apparently is welcoming to pedos [NT] - holybull101 - 1:20am 4/22/22
    - Scary right? They're apparently even graduates of ND. [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 11:08am 4/22/22
  - You're a very sick individual. [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 12:19am 4/22/22
- Their sex education indeed yields positive outcome to them: 21% of Gen Z now identifies as LGBT [NT] [LINK] - Eli - 11:28pm 4/21/22
  - So is it genetic or not? [NT] - Protagonist - 1:17am 4/22/22
    - Our development program is genetic but can be thrown off course by unbalanced parenting. - Curly1918 - 6:35am 4/22/22
    - It's social constructionism. It Ignores biology of sex. [NT] - Eli - 2:20am 4/22/22
- Wow. They thought this was a good idea to advertise. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:53pm 4/21/22
- You’d think libs might learn how badly this issue will gouge them from Virginia. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:47pm 4/21/22
  - Well if we're warning state medical boards over disagreements over masks? - Stark Raving Dad - 9:53pm 4/21/22
    - Do Liberals support priests teaching kindergartners about adult sexual relationships? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:56pm 4/21/22
      - You bring up an interesting side bar on this topic,,,while I've known several priests who could - TyroneIrish - 12:29pm 4/22/22
      - Boom. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:06pm 4/21/22
- OMG, i just looked it up, this is a real university [NT] - holybull101 - 9:34pm 4/21/22
- Which party supports chemical castration of children? The Democratic Party. [NT] - Cole - 9:27pm 4/21/22
- Weren’t we told by someone who doesn’t even have kids that stuff like - TampaIrish - 9:04pm 4/21/22
  - All joking aside, he needs to be reigned in. - Stark Raving Dad - 9:22pm 4/21/22
    - Alright, enough of this nonsense...the rest of the developed world, especially the EU, is acting in [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 12:09am 4/22/22
      - People should be warned about you. Your behavior is concerning. - Stark Raving Dad - 12:18am 4/22/22
        Stick to posting European soccer and F1 where you are doing better. [NT] - jimbasil - 2:57am 4/22/22
        I'd advise you similarly but I have no idea what you're good at. - Stark Raving Dad - 10:12am 4/22/22
        Aw, not even a good try by you. [NT] - jimbasil - 10:34am 4/22/22
        Not trying to zing you. Trying to help. - Stark Raving Dad - 11:21am 4/22/22
        So sweet - - jimbasil - 11:27am 4/22/22
        I have a soft spot in my heart for you. I can sense you're hurting. [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 12:50pm 4/22/22
    - Can you link this here please? I’ll unblock to look if necessary. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:20pm 4/21/22
      - Never mind,I found it. Ughh! Hard to believe. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:31pm 4/21/22
    - Nice sig. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:40pm 4/21/22
    - Consider the source and look at the characters he always defends. - TampaIrish - 9:30pm 4/21/22
      - We talking conor here, I would imagine. [NT] - ColeyO - 9:50pm 4/21/22
        Ooops, my bad, I know u who it is. Apologies to conor [NT] - ColeyO - 9:52pm 4/21/22