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I'll go out on a limb and say that 100% of Americans know what "Murder" is and fully support the

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 11:28 pm on May 5, 2022
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criminalization of it...with all the consequences that follow...I'm sure if you ran polls for an eternity, you'd get the same opinion...similarly, I'm sure that those same people understand what "Abortion" is...YET, more than 80% of them believe that abortion should be LEGAL in at least some cases...stop and think about that. Given this simple fact...and in a pluralistic democracy, it is flat out wrong for the wishes of an overwhelming majority to be denied by the government..)

Clearly, in hundreds of millions of people's minds, the two terms are NOT SYNONYMOUS...there is a difference...IMO, because there is often another innocent victim...the woman,...and they feel her pain and suffering...they are not willing to subject her to a lifetime of more pain...and as Roe v. Wade was judged, they agree that a certain amount of time is allowed for the woman to make her choice as to whether or not she should continue carrying the fetus to term.

This is the clear and obvious evidence you and others are disregarding...we can all work together to reduce the likelihood of Unwanted Pregnancies as well as providing more incentives for women to choose to give birth...

As Renee Roden eloquently put it, so long as there are Unwanted Pregnancies, there will be abortions...the decision is whether or not to make them safe...Overturning Roe v. Wade will be catastrophic for women...especially those without the means or time to seek legal abortions elsewhere.


Replies to: "I'll go out on a limb and say that 100% of Americans know what "Murder" is and fully support the"

  • "News Flash!"...Abortions did not start with Roe v. Wade... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 12:02pm 5/5/22 (55) [View All]
    • [I can't believe I'm doing this.] No one said it did. Your title is a distraction, not a point. - NedoftheHill - 2:16pm 5/5/22
      • Ned, I'm glad you at least responded...big "Thumbs Up" from me...now let's continue the discussion.. - TyroneIrish - 4:09pm 5/5/22
        • Quick response regarding a threshhold issue. - NedoftheHill - 5:42pm 5/5/22
          • No need to clarify your term...I get what you mean...yes, an abortion stops a developing human being - TyroneIrish - 8:59pm 5/5/22
            • Ok. You agree abortion is homicide. The issue: Is it jusifiable or not? That narrows the discussion. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:58pm 5/5/22
            • You rely on outdated science to say that "faith" changes. But, doctrine didn't change, science did. [LINK] - NedoftheHill - 10:44pm 5/5/22
              • To your last paragraph...yes, I did introduce the "Rape Case" scenario, so let's not avoid it, since - TyroneIrish - 7:43pm 5/6/22
                • So, you support abortion in all cases. The rape/incest discussion is meaningless. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:42pm 5/6/22
                  • While I, like you, would like to be able to parse 'casual' from 'substantive' reasons for - TyroneIrish - 11:27pm 5/6/22
        • You lost me at “I’ll”, what a load of bullshit. [NT] - notredame678 - 4:17pm 5/5/22
          • Wow!...ten words...sure hope you take some time to recover from all that mental exertion ;-). [NT] - TyroneIrish - 4:27pm 5/5/22
            • Reading your screeds is indeed a mental challenge. [NT] - notredame678 - 5:01pm 5/5/22
      • "It is not a complicated issue." So says all zealots, pro-choice and pro-life. - Chris94 - 4:03pm 5/5/22
        • Morality is complicated - so say people who haven't invested the effort to work through the morality - NedoftheHill - 5:09pm 5/5/22
        • It’s a State issue, been saying for years. Get yourself to your fainting couch. [NT] - notredame678 - 4:12pm 5/5/22
          • You will change your tune. You all will. THE BABIES! THE BABIES!! [LINK] - Chris94 - 4:19pm 5/5/22
            • Get a grip on yourself. [NT] - notredame678 - 5:02pm 5/5/22
            • Interesting podcast - opinion is that national laws would all be DOA with this opinion [LINK] - Iggle - 4:37pm 5/5/22
              • Most laws in the past 80 years should have been dead on arrival. - NedoftheHill - 5:51pm 5/5/22
    • Yay! Another abortion thread! - Nigel Tufnel - 1:56pm 5/5/22
    • People believe that abortion is murder. - Iggle - 1:42pm 5/5/22
      • Ask yourself WHY 80-85% of the American public since 1975 (see link) has supported the legalization [LINK] [IMAGE] - TyroneIrish - 2:09pm 5/5/22
        • I also can switch that to say 70% believe abortion should be illegal in almost all cases, but stats - WestCoastIrishFan - 3:23pm 5/5/22
          • If less than 20% want abortion to be illegal in all cases, how do you make that statement... - TyroneIrish - 4:24pm 5/5/22
            • Are you being serious? Give it some thought. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 6:24pm 5/5/22
              • I can't make the chart of the data any easier...sorry... [NT] - TyroneIrish - 11:54pm 5/5/22
        • So you concede his point. - NedoftheHill - 2:46pm 5/5/22
          • I get that many Pro-Lifers (but not all) stop at the word "Murder"...my contention...and that of - TyroneIrish - 4:38pm 5/5/22
            • His point remains unchallenged. You're taking us sideways now, which is fine. Just pointing that out - NedoftheHill - 4:57pm 5/5/22
              • I'll go out on a limb and say that 100% of Americans know what "Murder" is and fully support the - TyroneIrish - 11:28pm 5/5/22
                • You didn't answer the key question of my post. Respectfully, could you please try again? - NedoftheHill - 12:23am 5/6/22
                  • What part of :The reality that it is virtually impossible to discern which case is justified versus - TyroneIrish - 1:10am 5/6/22
      • Ty & Bishop McElory have a poll about that. Apparently Jesus was wrong. [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 1:56pm 5/5/22
        • What exactly did Jesus say about abortion? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 2:09pm 5/5/22
          • You don't care what Jesus said. Your existence is to be right on a message board. - ELP - 3:55pm 5/5/22
          • What does His Church say? - NedoftheHill - 2:30pm 5/5/22
            • You are correct...Jesus said nothing about abortion...but for the Roman Catholic Church, - TyroneIrish - 5:54pm 5/5/22
              • Jesus is The Word. - Stark Raving Dad - 8:49pm 5/5/22
                • You're essentially making it up...there was no teaching on the subject...it has all developed over - TyroneIrish - 1:36am 5/6/22
                  • This is incorrect. Scripture speaks extensively about the sanctity of life. - Stark Raving Dad - 9:18am 5/6/22
              • You could ask political Larry what the Church teaches, but why not ask the Church what it teaches? - NedoftheHill - 6:29pm 5/5/22
            • Tyrone doesn't believe in Scripture. He said it's an ancient text not to be believed. [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 2:34pm 5/5/22
              • You haven't answered the question yet, Stark...you brought it up...now back it up. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 4:40pm 5/5/22
                • I would invite you to address my question two posts up. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:52pm 5/5/22
                  • Oh you of little patience...see my response...all of it. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 5:57pm 5/5/22
                    • I can't get enough of you! [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:24pm 5/5/22
    • 5 Down Votes, thus far, but not one response...each of you knows I'm right about this, but are too - TyroneIrish - 1:30pm 5/5/22
      • It might be that people don't want to read your bullshit. - NedoftheHill - 1:59pm 5/5/22
        • Truth, very tiresome [NT] - ColeyO - 3:19pm 5/5/22
        • Another example of complete disregard for women...read that article on why Pro-Life advocates [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 2:19pm 5/5/22
          • Ty, think how long you'll get to debate this in the afterlife. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 3:26pm 5/5/22
            • OMG. Just realized what my personal hell will be. Stuck in a room reading Ty's links. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:30pm 5/5/22
          • Another example of complete disregard for babies. Read the Catechism. - NedoftheHill - 2:24pm 5/5/22
            • The Catholic Church has abdicated the preaching of abortion, homosexuality, & genderism to the NYT. - ELP - 3:58pm 5/5/22
              • Deleted. I misinterpreted your post. My bad. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:51pm 5/5/22
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