My contention is that he isn't stealing in those years that ND went to the elite 8. My contention is that he wasn't stealing in 2002 when they went to the sweet sixteen. The argument isn't whether he was adequate all 20 years, or productive all 20 years. Irish Eyes said he "stole" all 20 years, which means that his contention is that he had zero productivity for all 20 years. The guy with the most wins. You're coming off as remedial.