Strive how? Fake courses, steroids, athletic dorms, money to recruits, zero academic requirements,

Frank L 64990 posts Joined: Sep 20, 2007

Posted 7:32 pm on Jan 1, 2019

coverups of bad behavior? The schools that regularly win nattys run it as a sport bidness not as an academic institution. ND won’t and shouldn’t do that.

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Strive how? Fake courses, steroids, athletic dorms, money to recruits, zero academic requirements, Frank L 7:32pm · 1/1/19
- who says you have to become a criminal organization. Seems ND just needs a few impact players Buffaloirish 8:15pm · 1/1/19
  - So how many impact players do we need? What do we need to get them? Frank L 8:29pm · 1/1/19
    - I can't agree with that. It used to be said ND would never have a legitimate DL; that's WestCoastIrishFan 8:37pm · 1/1/19
      - So how do you get them genius?NT Frank L 8:40pm · 1/1/19
        
        Did you even read my post? ND has gotten it's share of elite WR's. I'd say ND lost recruits last WestCoastIrishFan 8:44pm · 1/1/19
        
        So again what is yer plan to make this team elite?NT Frank L 8:47pm · 1/1/19
    - Then go crawl in hole and die. You're a quitter and have given in to being an also ran. Buffaloirish 8:36pm · 1/1/19
      - Translation: I can’t answer the question. Seriously, Leahy, what impact players do we need and how Frank L 8:39pm · 1/1/19
        
        Ok quitter bitch here you go Buffaloirish 9:36pm · 1/1/19
        
        Are you retarded? Frank L 11:20pm · 1/1/19
        
        Francis are you stupid? Did you fail juco? Buffaloirish 12:01am · 1/2/19
        
        Yes, you obviously are.NT Frank L 12:20am · 1/2/19
- So ND women's basketball and hockey cheat? And any graduate of Ohio State, Clemson or Alabama is WestCoastIrishFan 7:43pm · 1/1/19
  - Just stop. Those sports aren’t the business that football is. The degree argument is just BS. Frank L 7:46pm · 1/1/19
    - I'm not the one that said widening admissions would cheapen a ND degree.NT WestCoastIrishFan 7:50pm · 1/1/19
      - They have widened them. That’s not the issue. Frank L 7:53pm · 1/1/19
        
        the original post indicated ND fans should be happy with the status quo. Why? Getting your ass WestCoastIrishFan 8:41pm · 1/1/19
        
        Soo then, give me yer plan to make this an elite team. Frank L 8:44pm · 1/1/19
        
        From what I've read and heard, ND has no interest in pursuing 5 stars who they believe could go pro WestCoastIrishFan 8:56pm · 1/1/19
        
        So in other words, Bama lite? Frank L 9:05pm · 1/1/19
        
        You asked what I would change. I told you. If you don't want ND to up it's game and "strive" to be WestCoastIrishFan 9:14pm · 1/1/19
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- We definitely don't need to and shouldn't follow that path. NDavenue 7:39pm · 1/1/19
  - I like yer optimism, but I’m not so sure. Frank L 7:44pm · 1/1/19
    - 10 wins in 3 of last 4 years. There are good signs, but yeah I'm not sure. NDavenue 7:56pm · 1/1/19
      - It’s frustrating because Kelly, like him or not has pulled the program out of the Boob Chuckles Frank L 8:00pm · 1/1/19
        
        Tap the brakes...3 points..I don't drink Kool aid... another epic failure on the big stage..NT eftg1 8:31pm · 1/1/19
        
        So where did I say it wasn’t? You think though the program hasn’t improved since his predecessors, Frank L 8:33pm · 1/1/19
        
        Improvement eftg1 8:52pm · 1/1/19
        
        No shit and no argument there. Frank L 9:01pm · 1/1/19
        
        Pathetic... eftg1 9:19pm · 1/1/19
        
        I'm no Kelly fan, but we are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Firing him is likely riskier... NDavenue 8:12pm · 1/1/19
        
        Clearly. You can’t fire a guy who has won 10 and 12 games the last two years. Frank L 8:30pm · 1/1/19

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