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I probably wouldn't put Fuller all the way in that category.

Author: jakers (13887 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 12:48 pm on Feb 18, 2020
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I agree with your general point - he certainly benefitted from the system, and his stats in the N.F.L. relative to college somewhat bear that out. But I think he'd have a been a notable playmaker on any of our teams over the last 3 decades.

Denson, on the other hand, is exactly as you described. He was actually the best defensive back on the team in '95 and '96, but because Farmer and Kinder never developed into their expected potential, along with some head-scratching recruiting misses at tailback in Holtz's last couple of years, he had to be the guy. And I respect that he played balls-out and got the job done to the max of his abilities.


Replies to: "I probably wouldn't put Fuller all the way in that category."

  • Based solely on their college career, who were Notre Dame's two best wide receivers ever? - john4psu - 5:48pm 2/17/20 (44) [View All]
    • tate and the shark honorable mention jack snow [NT] - Gower - 7:49pm 2/18/20
    • Jack Snow and Tim Brown [NT] - murph92675 - 7:47pm 2/18/20
      • Forgot about the great Jack Snow. He once won a contest in the NFL for being the only receiver - THEISMANCARR - 10:38am 2/19/20
        • Finished 5th in heisman ahead of Garrett. Sayers. Morton. Piccalo. [NT] - murph92675 - 6:28pm 2/19/20
    • Based purely on entertainment value Golden Tate and Jeff Samardzija [NT] - Curly1918 - 6:12pm 2/18/20
    • A great list, you cannot tell by stats because of the style of play being different. Here goes, Sama - THEISMANCARR - 2:12pm 2/18/20
    • Depends on whether you're looking at pure receivers, or multifaceted players - ndunabomber - 1:15pm 2/18/20
    • Brown and Rocket did a lot more than catch the ball. - Aragoto - 12:42pm 2/18/20
    • Floyd and Tim Brown - Hank Scorpio - 9:20am 2/18/20
      • I'd swap Tate for Floyd, but I'd say your list is dead-on. [NT] - jakers - 10:30am 2/18/20
        • I do wonder if I am leaving someone out - Hank Scorpio - 11:40am 2/18/20
          • What do you mean with the Autry Denson analogy? - jakers - 12:19pm 2/18/20
            • Very good but not great player who benefited from a lack of options - Hank Scorpio - 12:39pm 2/18/20
              • I probably wouldn't put Fuller all the way in that category. - jakers - 12:48pm 2/18/20
    • No love for Lake Dawson? - IrishChristopher - 1:38am 2/18/20
      • Good receiver. Not someone in the top-2-ever discussion. [NT] - jakers - 12:21pm 2/18/20
      • With a list like this it is best to judge by a career - Hank Scorpio - 11:23am 2/18/20
    • Floyd and Brown [NT] - DonMiller - 10:44pm 2/17/20
    • Mays, Floyd, Smardzja, Brown [NT] - oldirish - 10:40pm 2/17/20
    • Joey Getherall and Chris Finke. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:06pm 2/17/20
      • After studying old film I would rate Wayne Millner and Jack Snow higher. [NT] - whatsamataU - 9:34am 2/18/20
        • I was wondering when someone would mention Jack Snow, I guess many here didnt see him, BUT - cubsfanin16 - 11:59am 2/18/20
          • Jack Snow and Jim Seymour, back in the day, were lights out terrific. [NT] - faircatchcorby - 1:09pm 2/18/20
            • Agreed,if you noticed below, I still had Seymour in my top 2... [NT] - cubsfanin16 - 4:54pm 2/18/20
    • neither. I base my opion on the team. the team sucks. [NT] - Hank the Tank - 9:20pm 2/17/20
    • My personal favorite is Gatewood. And Tate, if only for the dive into MSU. [NT] - faircatchcorby - 9:02pm 2/17/20
      • I like Gatewood - croaker - 8:10pm 2/19/20
      • Gatewood's numbers are impressive considering how long ago that was in a run-first era. [NT] - john4psu - 1:02pm 2/18/20
    • Derrick Mayes? [NT] - nc4theirish - 7:49pm 2/17/20
      • He'd have been fun to watch in the more modern passing game. - jakers - 10:32am 2/18/20
        • Re: He'd have been fun to watch in the more modern passing game. - IrishChristopher - 2:12am 2/19/20
    • Jeff Samardjia and Michael Floyd (Tim Brown was the best but they didn't throw it to him that much). [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:36pm 2/17/20
    • Fuller and Tate [NT] - holybull101 - 7:36pm 2/17/20
    • I'll go with Tate because he made my favorite ND play of all time. [NT] [LINK] - NDQuebec - 6:49pm 2/17/20
      • Man, that pass was right in the bucket... [NT] - weisguy19 - 8:28am 2/18/20
      • You are my newest hero for posting this link. Best dive of all time. LMFAO. [NT] - faircatchcorby - 9:00pm 2/17/20
    • Floyd holds most records but for some reason I remember Samardzija making the the great - whatsamataU - 6:17pm 2/17/20
      • The Shark did make some high light catches, for sure. Was great list to look at [NT] - ColeyO - 6:20pm 2/17/20
    • Fuller and Jeff S. Tate close third. [NT] - Frank L - 6:15pm 2/17/20
    • I was a big JIm Seymour fan, so I'll go Seymour and Tim Brown; - cubsfanin16 - 6:00pm 2/17/20
    • The Rocket doesn't even come close. - NDavenue - 5:56pm 2/17/20
      • I was surprised to learn he only had four touchdown receptions in two years. [NT] - john4psu - 1:00pm 2/18/20
      • ...said No One ever. [NT] - Chrisb - 8:36am 2/18/20
        • On a list of best WRs ever at ND? Again, not even close. - NDavenue - 3:48pm 2/18/20
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