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Depends on whether you're looking at pure receivers, or multifaceted players

Author: ndunabomber (6478 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:15 pm on Feb 18, 2020
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If it's the latter, then no doubt, it was Raghib "Rocket" Ismail and Tim Brown, with Golden Tate coming in third.

Rocket could single handedly change the game. You had to account for him all of the time, and double cover him, or else he'd easily break free. As a punt and kickoff returner, he had no equal. He was also a very crafty downfield blocker.

His mere presence meant that teams were rarely able to play an 8 or 9 man front against us, without suffering serious consequences. In 1990, Rodney Culver and Ricky Watters had very nice seasons at the RB positions, because of that excellent offensive line, but what's often overlooked, is the fact that Rocket (and Tony Smith) spread the field vertically for us, often times taking that strong safety out of the box.

If you look at the two regular season losses to Stanford and Penn State, it wasn't a mere coincidence that after Rocket left those games with deep thigh bruises, that the opposing teams were able to crowd the line with that nine man front, and stop our running game cold. Of course, Ricky Watters and his butterfingers did more damage to us during the Stanford game with his two fumbled punt returns...


Now, in terms of pure receivers, it's debatable, but I would say Golden Tate and Jeff Samardzija. Both of those guys were bona fide #1 receivers who could make some truly amazing catches, hand hands of glue, and were two of the toughest hombres to play the game at that position.

Michael Floyd and Will Fuller would be the next two on my list.


Replies to: "Depends on whether you're looking at pure receivers, or multifaceted players"

  • Based solely on their college career, who were Notre Dame's two best wide receivers ever? - john4psu - 5:48pm 2/17/20 (44) [View All]
    • tate and the shark honorable mention jack snow [NT] - Gower - 7:49pm 2/18/20
    • Jack Snow and Tim Brown [NT] - murph92675 - 7:47pm 2/18/20
      • Forgot about the great Jack Snow. He once won a contest in the NFL for being the only receiver - THEISMANCARR - 10:38am 2/19/20
        • Finished 5th in heisman ahead of Garrett. Sayers. Morton. Piccalo. [NT] - murph92675 - 6:28pm 2/19/20
    • Based purely on entertainment value Golden Tate and Jeff Samardzija [NT] - Curly1918 - 6:12pm 2/18/20
    • A great list, you cannot tell by stats because of the style of play being different. Here goes, Sama - THEISMANCARR - 2:12pm 2/18/20
    • Depends on whether you're looking at pure receivers, or multifaceted players - ndunabomber - 1:15pm 2/18/20
    • Brown and Rocket did a lot more than catch the ball. - Aragoto - 12:42pm 2/18/20
    • Floyd and Tim Brown - Hank Scorpio - 9:20am 2/18/20
      • I'd swap Tate for Floyd, but I'd say your list is dead-on. [NT] - jakers - 10:30am 2/18/20
        • I do wonder if I am leaving someone out - Hank Scorpio - 11:40am 2/18/20
          • What do you mean with the Autry Denson analogy? - jakers - 12:19pm 2/18/20
            • Very good but not great player who benefited from a lack of options - Hank Scorpio - 12:39pm 2/18/20
              • I probably wouldn't put Fuller all the way in that category. - jakers - 12:48pm 2/18/20
    • No love for Lake Dawson? - IrishChristopher - 1:38am 2/18/20
      • Good receiver. Not someone in the top-2-ever discussion. [NT] - jakers - 12:21pm 2/18/20
      • With a list like this it is best to judge by a career - Hank Scorpio - 11:23am 2/18/20
    • Floyd and Brown [NT] - DonMiller - 10:44pm 2/17/20
    • Mays, Floyd, Smardzja, Brown [NT] - oldirish - 10:40pm 2/17/20
    • Joey Getherall and Chris Finke. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:06pm 2/17/20
      • After studying old film I would rate Wayne Millner and Jack Snow higher. [NT] - whatsamataU - 9:34am 2/18/20
        • I was wondering when someone would mention Jack Snow, I guess many here didnt see him, BUT - cubsfanin16 - 11:59am 2/18/20
          • Jack Snow and Jim Seymour, back in the day, were lights out terrific. [NT] - faircatchcorby - 1:09pm 2/18/20
            • Agreed,if you noticed below, I still had Seymour in my top 2... [NT] - cubsfanin16 - 4:54pm 2/18/20
    • neither. I base my opion on the team. the team sucks. [NT] - Hank the Tank - 9:20pm 2/17/20
    • My personal favorite is Gatewood. And Tate, if only for the dive into MSU. [NT] - faircatchcorby - 9:02pm 2/17/20
      • I like Gatewood - croaker - 8:10pm 2/19/20
      • Gatewood's numbers are impressive considering how long ago that was in a run-first era. [NT] - john4psu - 1:02pm 2/18/20
    • Derrick Mayes? [NT] - nc4theirish - 7:49pm 2/17/20
      • He'd have been fun to watch in the more modern passing game. - jakers - 10:32am 2/18/20
        • Re: He'd have been fun to watch in the more modern passing game. - IrishChristopher - 2:12am 2/19/20
    • Jeff Samardjia and Michael Floyd (Tim Brown was the best but they didn't throw it to him that much). [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:36pm 2/17/20
    • Fuller and Tate [NT] - holybull101 - 7:36pm 2/17/20
    • I'll go with Tate because he made my favorite ND play of all time. [NT] [LINK] - NDQuebec - 6:49pm 2/17/20
      • Man, that pass was right in the bucket... [NT] - weisguy19 - 8:28am 2/18/20
      • You are my newest hero for posting this link. Best dive of all time. LMFAO. [NT] - faircatchcorby - 9:00pm 2/17/20
    • Floyd holds most records but for some reason I remember Samardzija making the the great - whatsamataU - 6:17pm 2/17/20
      • The Shark did make some high light catches, for sure. Was great list to look at [NT] - ColeyO - 6:20pm 2/17/20
    • Fuller and Jeff S. Tate close third. [NT] - Frank L - 6:15pm 2/17/20
    • I was a big JIm Seymour fan, so I'll go Seymour and Tim Brown; - cubsfanin16 - 6:00pm 2/17/20
    • The Rocket doesn't even come close. - NDavenue - 5:56pm 2/17/20
      • I was surprised to learn he only had four touchdown receptions in two years. [NT] - john4psu - 1:00pm 2/18/20
      • ...said No One ever. [NT] - Chrisb - 8:36am 2/18/20
        • On a list of best WRs ever at ND? Again, not even close. - NDavenue - 3:48pm 2/18/20
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