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There never was a chance of hiring Urban Meyer

Author: ndunabomber (6473 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 10:52 am on May 26, 2020
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No chance at all. Anyone who honestly believes that there was any chance of his taking the ND job that year, is deluding himself. While we could have had a shot at him when he was coming out of Bowling Green, I doubt the fanbase would have wanted a coach of that low level of a school.

First, he knew that we were in for a future world of hurt, given the two worst recruiting classes in all of modern ND history (2004 and 2005, thanks to Ty WIllingham). While there was enough talent to do very well for 2005 and 2006, everyone knew that 2007 and 2008 would be down years.

Second, Florida had some truly excellent recruiting classes under Ron Zook. That roster was absolutely loaded with NFL starting talent, all the way throughout the entire two deep roster.

Meyer didn't want to take any time to rebuild, and instead, wanted quick results.

Finally, and most importantly, the University of Florida gave him complete control over the football program, essentially selling their souls to Mammon himself, just to gain quick results. The University of Notre Dame's Board of Trustees would never cede that kind of power, even to someone the likes of Nick Saban, Bob Stoops, etc.

Like it or not, Charlie Weis was the best man for the job at the time. He helped rebuild this program, at least giving Brian Kelly a well stocked roster of athletes in all of the classes, not just one or two. When Brian Kelly took over, there were far more 4 and 5 star players on this roster, as well as a good number of 3 star players who were definitely Division I material.

We didn't have a roster littered with Tregg Duerson-class players that nobody else wanted.



That being said...

Yes, Charlie Weis was a flawed coach, and simply wasn't ready for the job at the time. While he was able to learn on the job, ND simply isn't the place to do that, since we, the fanbase, are an impatient lot, and want our teams to be contenders every year.

There were several mistakes he could have avoided to buy him some more time, but the most glaring one that essentially killed that chance, was hiring Jon Tenuta, and letting him run that stupid "jailbreak blitz every down" defense.


Replies to: "There never was a chance of hiring Urban Meyer"

  • “ Coaches who could have been hired before Charlie Weis”. Woulda, coulda, shoulda......not likely! [NT] [LINK] - whatsamataU - 8:58am 5/26/20 (27) [View All]
    • Re: “ Coaches who could have been hired before Charlie Weis”. Woulda, coulda, shoulda......not likely! [NT] - b2runn - 10:03pm 5/28/20
    • As regards former HC Charles Weis... [LINK] - Shillelagh - 9:11am 5/27/20
      • Poor officiating? USC game killed him? - humbaba - 12:10pm 5/28/20
        • Officiating? You bet! [LINK] - Shillelagh - 8:48am 5/29/20
          • So how does officiating play into the other 48 games Weis lost as a college coach? [NT] - humbaba - 9:35am 5/29/20
      • Weis looked great on paper. He had some obstacles not of his doing - MarkHarman - 8:30am 5/28/20
    • Weak article, biggest mistake was Wadsworth (Davie) and the Kevin White mess [NT] - DonMiller - 7:37pm 5/26/20
      • To quote the great Orator of the East, AlbanyIRISH “You're kinda fucking dumb.” [NT] - whatsamataU - 8:34am 5/27/20
    • ND football died when we whiffed on Meyer. - Irishize - 9:36am 5/26/20
      • There never was a chance of hiring Urban Meyer - ndunabomber - 10:52am 5/26/20
        • Agree with quite a bitr of that. Weis was never cut out to be HC though... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 11:07am 5/26/20
        • That's just not true. The Florida job is all that kept him away. - jakers - 11:06am 5/26/20
      • It didn’t help when Lou was honest with him about his chances of winning. [NT] - whatsamataU - 10:39am 5/26/20
        • Don't forget Meyer had a young family and a wife who looked at recruiting for ND nationwide or - jrdjr84 - 2:48pm 5/28/20
        • That's not what Lou said. - jakers - 10:51am 5/26/20
          • Your spot on, it wasn't Lou [NT] - DonMiller - 9:57am 5/27/20
          • Neither were positives. [NT] - whatsamataU - 3:08pm 5/26/20
          • Yep. That's how it went down. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 11:05am 5/26/20
      • Re: ND football died when we whiffed on Meyer. - jonpaultoo - 10:03am 5/26/20
        • Urban Meyer: A talented scumbag - Irishize - 12:46pm 5/26/20
          • With his own jet. [NT] - whatsamataU - 3:09pm 5/26/20
          • He wouldnt have won - WoodstockIrish - 1:23pm 5/26/20
            • ND under Meyer would have been a powerhouse. - Irishize - 3:21pm 5/26/20
              • Exactly, they play very similar schedules/opponents - WoodstockIrish - 8:46am 5/27/20
              • Not with our 2007 and 2008 roster - ndunabomber - 4:59pm 5/26/20
                • We're those the classes which had 1 OL between them? - NedoftheHill - 12:31pm 5/27/20
                  • Yes, under Willingham - ndunabomber - 3:07pm 5/27/20
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