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Yes, under Willingham

Author: ndunabomber (6476 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:07 pm on May 27, 2020
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Even though the 2004 class had two linemen (Incarnato and Kadous), both of them ended up transferring out (Incarnato to U. Mass, Kadous to Arizona).

While there were enough upper classmen to hold things down in 2005 and 2006, there simply weren't any true juniors or seniors ready to handle the burden in 2007. Going against polished rosters who had plenty of talent along the 2 deep was essentially the same as putting your JV team against the top notch varsity teams.

Charlie managed to pull off a pretty impressive feat, though, bringing in Paul Duncan and Mike Turkovich at the very last second into that class of 2005, both of whom served as capable starters. There weren't any 4 or 5 star linemen available out there during those waning moments, and he still managed to get in a couple of 3 star guys who turned into serviceable players for us.


Replies to: "Yes, under Willingham"

  • “ Coaches who could have been hired before Charlie Weis”. Woulda, coulda, shoulda......not likely! [NT] [LINK] - whatsamataU - 8:58am 5/26/20 (27) [View All]
    • Re: “ Coaches who could have been hired before Charlie Weis”. Woulda, coulda, shoulda......not likely! [NT] - b2runn - 10:03pm 5/28/20
    • As regards former HC Charles Weis... [LINK] - Shillelagh - 9:11am 5/27/20
      • Poor officiating? USC game killed him? - humbaba - 12:10pm 5/28/20
        • Officiating? You bet! [LINK] - Shillelagh - 8:48am 5/29/20
          • So how does officiating play into the other 48 games Weis lost as a college coach? [NT] - humbaba - 9:35am 5/29/20
      • Weis looked great on paper. He had some obstacles not of his doing - MarkHarman - 8:30am 5/28/20
    • Weak article, biggest mistake was Wadsworth (Davie) and the Kevin White mess [NT] - DonMiller - 7:37pm 5/26/20
      • To quote the great Orator of the East, AlbanyIRISH “You're kinda fucking dumb.” [NT] - whatsamataU - 8:34am 5/27/20
    • ND football died when we whiffed on Meyer. - Irishize - 9:36am 5/26/20
      • There never was a chance of hiring Urban Meyer - ndunabomber - 10:52am 5/26/20
        • Agree with quite a bitr of that. Weis was never cut out to be HC though... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 11:07am 5/26/20
        • That's just not true. The Florida job is all that kept him away. - jakers - 11:06am 5/26/20
      • It didn’t help when Lou was honest with him about his chances of winning. [NT] - whatsamataU - 10:39am 5/26/20
        • Don't forget Meyer had a young family and a wife who looked at recruiting for ND nationwide or - jrdjr84 - 2:48pm 5/28/20
        • That's not what Lou said. - jakers - 10:51am 5/26/20
          • Your spot on, it wasn't Lou [NT] - DonMiller - 9:57am 5/27/20
          • Neither were positives. [NT] - whatsamataU - 3:08pm 5/26/20
          • Yep. That's how it went down. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 11:05am 5/26/20
      • Re: ND football died when we whiffed on Meyer. - jonpaultoo - 10:03am 5/26/20
        • Urban Meyer: A talented scumbag - Irishize - 12:46pm 5/26/20
          • With his own jet. [NT] - whatsamataU - 3:09pm 5/26/20
          • He wouldnt have won - WoodstockIrish - 1:23pm 5/26/20
            • ND under Meyer would have been a powerhouse. - Irishize - 3:21pm 5/26/20
              • Exactly, they play very similar schedules/opponents - WoodstockIrish - 8:46am 5/27/20
              • Not with our 2007 and 2008 roster - ndunabomber - 4:59pm 5/26/20
                • We're those the classes which had 1 OL between them? - NedoftheHill - 12:31pm 5/27/20
                  • Yes, under Willingham - ndunabomber - 3:07pm 5/27/20
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