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Funny you mention Cincy.

Author: Napoleon (5421 Posts - Joined: Apr 23, 2015)
Posted at 8:26 am on Dec 1, 2020
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I specifically named Cincy as the kind of job that someone like Lea (hot name/short-term coordinator) is sometimes in line for. I very much had Fickell in mind there. He was the first guy I thought of in considering all of this. He was a DC at a top program under Urban Meyer, who also had brief interim HC experience. He was in a strong position for a coordinator, and he landed the Cincy job: An AAC school that went 18-14 in conference under its prior coach. Fickell coming out of OSU is about where I see Lea right now. I guess because Fickell has done so well there that the Cincy HC spot is a higher profile. But it is still AAC, and I find the idea of it being a better job than an SEC opportunity a little sketchy. Ditto UCF. Iowa State? Was basically where Vandy is before Campbell came in, off his experience as a DC, and turned things around from the Rhodes era. I guess it is a “better job” now because Campbell elevated them. Something Lea might imagine himself doing at Vandy, like Franklin did there for a couple of seasons. I think a few posters here think Lea is going to be in line for a top-line power 5 HC job after the season, and that just isn’t realistic in my opinion.

That’s a long way for me to say that if the suggestion is that Lea should pass on his alma mater because UCF might open up, . . I really don’t get it. If he’s ready to take a HC job now, I have a hard time seeing him landing a much “better job” than Vanderbilt at this point. Maybe I’m wrong. At the end of the day, he’s been a very good DC at a top program for three years. Everything I’ve written is premised on the idea that Lea will be taking a job after this season, which seemed to be the nature of the thread. I agree that if he sticks at ND for some time longer, it could put him in a stronger position for better jobs — the Venables model. Which might be a better big picture path for him. I’d love that because I’d like to see him at ND as long as possible. I’m in line with the first 2 paragraphs of your most recent response. I can only guess if he will stay or go after this season.


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Replies to: "Funny you mention Cincy."

  • Say goodbye to Clark Lea [NT] [LINK] - eddie82 - 2:28pm 11/29/20 (39) [View All]
    • Scott Frost Part II - irishone - 7:11am 11/30/20
    • Just saw on CBS Sports Network that Vandy is interested in Clark big time. [NT] - ELP - 9:25pm 11/29/20
      • Of course they would be. The question is whether he wants that mess. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 10:02pm 11/29/20
        • It makes sense, given the connections, and Lea’s rising stock. That said . . . - Napoleon - 11:03pm 11/29/20
          • I’m thinking he’ll have other better options...which isn’t good for us. - TakethetrainKnute - 6:34am 11/30/20
            • I think Vandy makes sense for him. - Napoleon - 9:25am 11/30/20
        • When all said and done - "Money, Money, Monnney". [NT] - ghostwriter - 10:11pm 11/29/20
    • Isn’t this the school that just did the stunt with the female kicker? - real powerhouse [NT] - jamie - 7:47pm 11/29/20
    • Bullshit. I’m pretty sure CL knows he’ll be strongly - faircatchcorby - 5:43pm 11/29/20
      • I love Lea - but please....NO! [NT] - irishone - 7:02am 11/30/20
        • Right...that's Rees' job... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:06am 11/30/20
    • He would be nuts to try to coach that craphole of a program - CC72 - 5:38pm 11/29/20
    • Will Muschamp? [NT] - DonMiller - 4:42pm 11/29/20
    • He can do a whole lot better than Vandy - D2 - 4:25pm 11/29/20
      • Absolutely. It is nearly impossible to build a consistent winner at Vandy in the SEC. [NT] - DadUdaMan4 - 7:12pm 11/29/20
        • Vandy was a stepping stone to Penn State for Franklin. - Napoleon - 9:36pm 11/29/20
          • Claiming Franklin as evidence of a head coach breeding ground is like Minnesota using Holtz - D2 - 11:46pm 11/29/20
            • Not saying it is a HC "breeding ground." Not at all. Just saying going to Vandy can lead to more. - Napoleon - 9:35am 11/30/20
              • I guess I'll just agree to disagree - D2 - 3:58pm 11/30/20
                • Just opinions. Serious question, though: what “better job” do you foresee? - Napoleon - 9:25pm 11/30/20
                  • There is no reason to take a head coaching job for the sake of taking a head coaching job. - D2 - 10:33pm 11/30/20
                    • Funny you mention Cincy. - Napoleon - 8:26am 12/1/20
                      • Vandy is easily one of the 5 to 7 worst jobs in Power 5 - D2 - 3:19pm 12/1/20
                        • Genuinely value your input here. - Napoleon - 4:15pm 12/1/20
                          • Good discussion - D2 - 4:20pm 12/1/20
    • Never know. Vandy coaches fail - NDNEIL - 3:43pm 11/29/20
      • Move Fuller to QB next year and they’ll probably be pretty good. [NT] - Napoleon - 4:07pm 11/29/20
        • Why not HC? Would be truly groundbreaking. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 7:08pm 11/29/20
          • I see absolutely no reason why . . . - Napoleon - 7:15pm 11/29/20
    • Re: Say goodbye to Clark Lea - primo - 3:42pm 11/29/20
      • I had to look Diaco up. - Napoleon - 4:39pm 11/29/20
        • classic reminder about the next big thing [NT] - D2 - 7:33pm 11/29/20
    • What's an ND-football season without waiting for that shoe to drop. Lea leaving early would be it. [NT] - lacan - 3:20pm 11/29/20
    • Serve in Heaven, or rule in Hell? - ndunabomber - 2:36pm 11/29/20
      • Re: Serve in Heaven, or rule in Hell? - eddie82 - 2:47pm 11/29/20
    • I don't think he would want the worst job in the SEC - jrdjr84 - 2:35pm 11/29/20
      • My bet would be Chadwell. - Napoleon - 4:19pm 11/29/20
      • Re: I don't think he would want the worst job in the SEC - eddie82 - 2:48pm 11/29/20
        • Next HC will inherit an amazing kicker. The losses will still be there though. [NT] - ELP - 4:18pm 11/29/20
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