Just don't think you can learn O.T.J. at Notre Dame.

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Just don't think you can learn O.T.J. at Notre Dame.

Author: jakers (14349 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:38 pm on Dec 3, 2020

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You have to have been a successful H.C. with some major program experience to step in and win big.

Replies to: "Just don't think you can learn O.T.J. at Notre Dame."

I hope ND offers Clark Lea the HC job now for when Kelly retires w/ expectation that he stay on as - BaronVonZemo - 1:03pm 12/3/20 (45) [View All]
- No - Cheg80 - 6:54pm 12/3/20
- Kelly very well may have another 10 years coaching he s only 59 [NT] - DonMiller - 5:39pm 12/3/20
  - It’s not the number of years at ND that ruins ones health. All the long term predecessors won NC’s - whatsamataU - 6:19pm 12/3/20
- What if BK won the NC this year and hung up his whistle? - Irishize - 4:13pm 12/3/20
- Look, ND barely pays Kelly let alone a coordinator. ND needs to pay him or HE GONE! [NT] - Blickster - 2:44pm 12/3/20
  - That's bullshit....always a myth that ND doesn't pay [NT] - weisguy19 - 8:56am 12/4/20
  - This is nonsense. Do you think Kelly is an idiot? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 3:04pm 12/3/20
    - In 2020 we Google for credibility. Please see link. [NT] [LINK] - Blickster - 4:02pm 12/3/20
      - So, let me get this straight, you actually think that Brian Kelly's total compensation package had - TakethetrainKnute - 5:21pm 12/3/20
        That’s the only way they would keep him. Work for less than everyone on campus but get a title, - whatsamataU - 6:22pm 12/3/20
  - ND barely pays Kelly? You do know that the University is NOT obligated to release salaries... - Domer From Hell - 2:55pm 12/3/20
    - Not a secret.... [NT] [LINK] - Blickster - 4:08pm 12/3/20
      - Seems to be for you. [NT] - whatsamataU - 6:23pm 12/3/20
      - Please refer to D2's post. Kelly's base compensation isn't his total compensation. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 5:54pm 12/3/20
      - Perhaps you should read the article you posted? - D2 - 4:35pm 12/3/20
    - Do you have an idea of what the actual bottom line is for Kelly? - Napoleon - 3:04pm 12/3/20
      - No, but I would estimate that it's north of 5.5million a year. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 5:55pm 12/3/20
        Good estimate. He just extended after three 10 or more win seasons. There is simply no way he could - TakethetrainKnute - 9:23am 12/4/20
- Where has the "HC in waiting" strategy every worked? - ND_in_DRO - 2:03pm 12/3/20
  - OSU (Day), UM (Carr), Stanford (Shaw), Oklahoma (Riley)....off the top of my head. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:39pm 12/3/20
    - I don't think Riley was ever officially titled "HC in waiting" nor was Carr or Shaw. - D2 - 3:43pm 12/3/20
    - Shaw was never a HC in wating - ND_in_DRO - 3:12pm 12/3/20
    - Agree, I never bought into theory that an assistant needs HC experience before taking over.. - THEISMANCARR - 3:06pm 12/3/20
- It's working with Ryan Day at OSU. [NT] - Irishize - 1:40pm 12/3/20
  - Day was never the HC-in-waiting. Meyer retired and he got promoted. Kelly hasn't retired yet. [NT] - ND_in_DRO - 2:05pm 12/3/20
    - Actually, he was in waiting - that's why they brought him in at Meyer's suggestion. - BaronVonZemo - 2:31pm 12/3/20
      - Kelly just signed a contract extension through 2024 - ND_in_DRO - 3:03pm 12/3/20
    - OK, but Day was never a head coach before, and he took over a mega-football factory successfully. [NT] - Irishize - 2:18pm 12/3/20
- Remember Bob Davie.... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:34pm 12/3/20
  - Just don't think you can learn O.T.J. at Notre Dame. - jakers - 11:38pm 12/3/20
    - Very possible, but Davie was just terrible regardless - Fisher01 - 8:49am 12/4/20
    - Proven by Faust, Davie, Weis. It is too risky given the history and exposure of the job... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 2:24am 12/4/20
      - Knute Rockne was never a HC before he took over the ND program. They made a movie about him. [NT] - ELP - 9:26am 12/4/20
    - Agree. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:14am 12/4/20
  - That was my thought as well. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:44pm 12/3/20
  - Remember Tyrone Willingham..... [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:43pm 12/3/20
    - Sure? Your point? He wasn't a top tier coach...and lost to Davie every other year.... - TakethetrainKnute - 3:09pm 12/3/20
      - Funny story about Willingham (sort of)... - NedoftheHill - 4:09pm 12/3/20
    - He was a near .500 head coach. Never was a good hire. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:46pm 12/3/20
- Verry tempting...I'd like to see how he performs under the "Klieg Lights" just a bit. Being ND's HC - TyroneIrish - 1:26pm 12/3/20
- Totally disagree, I hate that "coach in waiting nonsense", and - cubsfanin16 - 1:21pm 12/3/20
- I agree with this. - NDavenue - 1:13pm 12/3/20
- Tough job for anyone with no previous FBS head coaching experience - CC72 - 1:08pm 12/3/20
  - Who else will know the specifics of the ND HC better? - BaronVonZemo - 1:10pm 12/3/20
- Negative, but, pay him what the other elite DCs are earning. Make it a priority. [NT] - ELP - 1:07pm 12/3/20

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