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Agreed to some extent

Author: ndunabomber (6473 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 9:41 am on Dec 17, 2020
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The 2016 team had a terrible record, but was actually much better than advertised.

The main fault of the team was laid squarely on the defense, specifically, Brian Van Gorder's awful playcalling. Who else would call a cover three scheme play after play after play, while opponents are eating us alive with the short and medium passing game? The only other defensive coordinator that we had who was nearly as foolish was Jon Tenuta, who kept calling jailbreak blitz on every down...

That defense cost us at least 4 games that year, easily. Special teams also contributed to another 3 games lost.

I do agree with you, though, that the offense could have pulled off maybe two more victories, if Brian Kelly hadn't tried to placate Malik Zaire, who was constantly clamoring for more time. Kizer deserved to be the unquestioned starter, and playing an ineffective Zaire for all of those series in the Texas game cost us that shootout. We were scoring at will with Kizer at the helm.


That being said, Brian Kelly definitely learned from his mistakes, and has certainly evolved over the years. He started out as a big time small potatoes coach (Grand Valley State, Cincy), only to be overwhelmed once he got to the big stage. However, he finally got rid of the cancers on the coaching staff (Van Gorder, Longo), and learned the value of having competent assistant coaches to the point where he's an excellent coach on the big stage now.

There's no question about who's leading the team on the various fronts, and Brian Kelly has been able to squeeze out every last drop of performance out of Ian Book that one could reasonably have expected.


Replies to: "Agreed to some extent"

  • Zaire s teams last two years 4-8, 4-7. [LINK] - DonMiller - 7:56am 12/17/20 (12) [View All]
    • He was very respected and popular both places. Sorry to hear this bs from you Don. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 3:48pm 12/17/20
    • Wimbush was 10-3/6-0 but got benched. Maybe rightly so but I thought he was poorly managed by Kelly - Jerseymick - 1:56pm 12/17/20
      • His benching was his own doing - ndunabomber - 5:17pm 12/17/20
    • “ Ian is so special “ OK church lady give it a break from being nauseating [NT] - whatsamataU - 10:59am 12/17/20
      • He's bigseanpower10. - AlbanyIRISH - 11:02am 12/17/20
        • Is that true? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:33pm 12/17/20
          • Possible. [NT] - Frank L - 5:18pm 12/17/20
    • Let it go Louie. [NT] - faircatchcorby - 10:40am 12/17/20
    • What? - Napoleon - 9:46am 12/17/20
    • Agreed to some extent - ndunabomber - 9:41am 12/17/20
    • What drug(s) do you abuse? [NT] - AlbanyIRISH - 8:14am 12/17/20
      • The real problem is he doesn't - D2 - 12:57pm 12/17/20
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