You don't know any of that, though.

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You don't know any of that, though.

Author: Napoleon (3883 Posts - Joined: Apr 23, 2015)

Posted at 8:53 am on Jan 14, 2021

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You don't know that Buchner will be able, as a true freshman, to "compete" in the CFP better than Coan or Pyne. Also, losing a couple of early games because of an inexperienced QB can stop your CFP hopes in its tracks. Second, if Buchner is "the real deal," and will be the guy who takes ND to the next level and will be able to compete in the CFP better than others . . . why don't we think he could, as a sophomore, handle OSU and Clemson? Respectfully, I think you are projecting the highest possible upside for Buchner, and just assuming he will be ready for the job from day one -- which is fairly unusual for a true freshman even when they had a SR season in HS. Again, Lawrence (who was considered a phenom) didn't even start day 1. I like Buchner, so don't get me wrong. But the idea that he'll be a game 1 starter, will be great as a frosh, and will be CFP competitive is nothing more than a guess or a hope. There is also the matter of ND needing to do a significant rebuild of the OL, and adjusting to a new DC (with some rebuild on that side of the ball too). Doesn't sound like a great spot to put all chips on a true freshman who hasn't even played HS football since 2018. Just my honest take.

Replies to: "You don't know any of that, though."

I'm all in on Buchner. Here's why. - Irishize - 6:28am 1/14/21 (39) [View All]
- One big challenge. He's a QB and Kelly will still stick his finger in the middle of it. It rarely - oldirish - 11:59pm 1/14/21
- Went to see him play, lights out arm & very fast. 1 year HS starter tho, last game Nov 2019. [NT] - ND521 - 11:07pm 1/14/21
- Coan will start. I think he will be better than Book. I'd like a limited RPO and Zone Read package - tky21 - 10:04pm 1/14/21
  - And as a postscript, let me say I am grateful we had Book...mean him no disrespect. But we would - tky21 - 10:14pm 1/14/21
- Coan uses the middle of the field a lot based on the videos I've seen - ND_in_DRO - 12:53pm 1/14/21
  - At 6’3”, I believe he is taller than any ND QB since Rees. Maybe he can see over the OL [NT] - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 7:49pm 1/14/21
    - He reminds me of a taller Rees (didn't check Rees height). Not very mobile, weak arm, pretty good. [NT] - oldirish - 12:02am 1/15/21
- Coan will be the starter vs FSU - D2 - 12:52pm 1/14/21
- Two problems from that article. - AlbanyIRISH - 11:00am 1/14/21
  - Played against some big schools, but only in playoffs. Faster than Phil and throws spirals was my [LINK] - ND521 - 11:14pm 1/14/21
- It would be good to have a competition but I think Coan will win based on experience - CC72 - 10:37am 1/14/21
  - He needs to play next year. - AlbanyIRISH - 11:04am 1/14/21
- Buchner is a special talent during a special era @ND, Gonna be another great 4 years [NT] - DonMiller - 9:47am 1/14/21
  - Needs? In what way, please elaborate on your statement. [NT] - whatsamataU - 1:22pm 1/14/21
    - He will never respond to questions regarding his posts. Only posts in support of Kelly homers [NT] - PBHangingChad - 6:40pm 1/14/21
      - Dumb Ass doing that on ND message board! Who does - ColeyO - 7:38pm 1/15/21
      - SYCHOPANT! [NT] - whatsamataU - 9:40am 1/15/21
- Re: I'm all in on Buchner. Here's why. - pghdomer79 - 9:34am 1/14/21
  - and I know how Kelly recruits QBs now, if he has to battle UGA, Clemson, Bama, USC, OSU - holybull101 - 10:13am 1/14/21
    - Jurkovec was recruited by Alabama, OSU, and Clemson. Pyne was offered by 'Bama and Oklahoma. [LINK] - Napoleon - 12:30pm 1/14/21
      - in 2018, Bama, OSU and Clemson were trying to get Trevor Lawrence, and last year they were going - holybull101 - 1:49pm 1/14/21
        Programs tend to go after multiple targets. [LINK] - Napoleon - 6:34pm 1/14/21
        The problem is why didn't Kelly end up with Fields or Lawrence that year? - holybull101 - 7:33pm 1/14/21
        Lawrence and Fields were #1 and #2 overall regardless of position. [LINK] - Napoleon - 10:00pm 1/14/21
      - As were many by Bama. [NT] - whatsamataU - 1:24pm 1/14/21
- FWiW...I think Clark is a better fit for ND's offense than Pyne (unsure about Clark's injury) [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 9:28am 1/14/21
  - Same here. But admittedly haven't seen Clark really play at all. [NT] - oldirish - 12:07am 1/15/21
- here's my concern...Covid and an injury have limited him to just a handful of games. Not saying he - WestCoastIrishFan - 9:25am 1/14/21
- It's a great situation if Kelly decides to make it so. - NDavenue - 8:56am 1/14/21
- If I remember correctly, Buchner didn't have a SR season. - Napoleon - 8:26am 1/14/21
  - Correct, and didn't start at QB until his Jr year. - ND_in_DRO - 12:54pm 1/14/21
  - We can run the table in 2021. Time is of the essence. - Irishize - 8:43am 1/14/21
    - You don't know any of that, though. - Napoleon - 8:53am 1/14/21
      - I understand your point, but it's worth taking the risk. - Irishize - 8:59am 1/14/21
        All I'll add to this: Buchner could get "experience" in 2021 without being the starter game 1. - Napoleon - 9:48am 1/14/21
- This was considered a down year for elite QB prospects - holybull101 - 8:05am 1/14/21
  - I'd rather see him flip CJ Hicks. [NT] - NDavenue - 8:57am 1/14/21
    - Good luck trying to flip this kid - his best opportunity to win a Heisman/NC is with the BuckNuts... - NEPA Irish - 9:44am 1/14/21
      - That's true. BUT Freeman has a local connection here. - NDavenue - 1:40pm 1/14/21