The 11-12 record over 2 seasons was a huge problem, along with 3 straight 31-point losses to U.S.C. Even Davie didn't dip to those depths.
Equally as big of an issue was the recruiting failures. The 2003 class was sparkling, which came along the coattails of that 10-win 2002 season. 2004 may have been the worst class in the history of N.D. 2005 was awful, too. The "give-him-5-years" idea would have put us in a depth hole that we may never have recovered from. No effort being made, no coherent roster plan, far too few linemen.
Replies to: "Willingham brought in 3 offensive linemen in 2 years."
- Urban Meyer broke my heart. - koreasam - 4:10pm 1/14/21
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- Urban “played” Notre Dame to grease a bigger Florida contract. - conorlarkin - 8:36pm 1/16/21
- Urban “played” Notre Dame to get a bigger Florida contract - he already had a contract with Florida - fedman - 1:13am 1/20/21
- Meyer will be a trainwreck in the NFL - Fisher01 - 9:21pm 1/15/21
- I'll take that bet. [NT] - MAS - 11:06am 1/16/21
- Why? [NT] - whatsamataU - 10:11am 1/16/21
- Depends on whether or not he tries to incorporate his college offense - ndunabomber - 9:43am 1/16/21
- Lamar Jackson seems to be doing ok & he's much smaller than Newton or Tebow. [NT]
- IrishChristopher - 4:31pm 1/16/21
- He's also still young - ndunabomber - 5:39pm 1/16/21
- Lamar Jackson seems to be doing ok & he's much smaller than Newton or Tebow. [NT]
- IrishChristopher - 4:31pm 1/16/21
- What makes you say this? [NT]
- faircatchcorby - 9:02am 1/16/21
- He's a sociopath whose motivational techniques will never fly with grown men - Fisher01 - 11:12am 1/16/21
- You just mentioned two losers. List a couple of winners to compare him to since I would think - whatsamataU - 2:04pm 1/16/21
- He's a sociopath whose motivational techniques will never fly with grown men - Fisher01 - 11:12am 1/16/21
- Willinghams recruiting was terrible, urban wasn't gonna come and Kevin white was awful [NT]
- DonMiller - 10:35pm 1/14/21
- I kind of go along with Jerome Bettis on this one. “ He wasn’t given a chance compared to Davie and - whatsamataU - 9:09am 1/15/21
- White had to tell Tyrone to stop playing golf & to hit the recruiting trail. - IrishChristopher - 4:35pm 1/16/21
- That was incredible. - jakers - 10:42am 1/17/21
- Willingham brought in 3 offensive linemen in 2 years. - jakers - 10:01am 1/16/21
- Worst OL recruiting of all time - ndunabomber - 11:50am 1/16/21
- TW's coaching and recruiting set the program back a good 5-7 years. It took years for Weis and Kell - WestCoastIrishFan - 3:02pm 1/15/21
- ^^ This - ndunabomber - 6:09pm 1/15/21
- ND had to cut ties because of how far it had fallen so quickly but also how much worse it was going - NDNEIL - 1:06pm 1/15/21
- Which is total hogwash - D2 - 12:24pm 1/15/21
- Who wasn't given a chance? [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 11:15am 1/15/21
- White had to tell Tyrone to stop playing golf & to hit the recruiting trail. - IrishChristopher - 4:35pm 1/16/21
- I kind of go along with Jerome Bettis on this one. “ He wasn’t given a chance compared to Davie and - whatsamataU - 9:09am 1/15/21
- I don't know why, but . . . - humbaba - 8:17pm 1/14/21
- That is what I thought about Pete Carroll—but he surprised me. [NT]
- Shadow_of_the_Dome - 1:21am 1/15/21
- Flip side is Saban, Holtz, Spurrier... [NT]
- TakethetrainKnute - 8:31am 1/15/21
- Then there's Jimmy Johnson [NT]
- MarkHarman - 5:38pm 1/15/21
- Jimmy Johnson Part 2 (Dolphins) really stunk [NT] - IrishChristopher - 4:41pm 1/16/21
- Then there's Jimmy Johnson [NT]
- MarkHarman - 5:38pm 1/15/21
- Flip side is Saban, Holtz, Spurrier... [NT]
- TakethetrainKnute - 8:31am 1/15/21
- That is what I thought about Pete Carroll—but he surprised me. [NT]
- Shadow_of_the_Dome - 1:21am 1/15/21
- At least people have finally stopped posting about John Gruden - ND_in_DRO - 5:29pm 1/14/21
- "Did you know his alarm clock plays the Notre Dame Victory March...?" [NT]
- TakethetrainKnute - 5:37pm 1/14/21
- I'm retired so I don't have an alarm clock. [NT]
- ELP - 12:54pm 1/15/21
- and you get up too damn early?! [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:44pm 1/15/21
- It hurts like hell that we got that close with 2 elite coaches. - jakers - 9:12pm 1/14/21
- did Lou ever talk about his suggested successor even during his peak? [NT]
- WestCoastIrishFan - 8:46pm 1/15/21
- He wasn’t aware that was in the cards. [NT] - whatsamataU - 4:14pm 1/16/21
- That was embarrassing. [NT] - whatsamataU - 9:15am 1/15/21
- did Lou ever talk about his suggested successor even during his peak? [NT]
- WestCoastIrishFan - 8:46pm 1/15/21
- I'm retired so I don't have an alarm clock. [NT]
- ELP - 12:54pm 1/15/21
- "Did you know his alarm clock plays the Notre Dame Victory March...?" [NT]
- TakethetrainKnute - 5:37pm 1/14/21
- Urban didn't marry for love, he married for success. - Irishize - 4:51pm 1/14/21
- I know a few that are that way [NT] - whatsamataU - 9:13am 1/15/21
- Those damn nerdie football players at Notre Dame. [NT]
- WoodstockIrish - 8:13pm 1/14/21
- Watch out, Urbie, for the Revenge of the ND Nerds! [NT]
- Irishize - 8:32pm 1/14/21
- We're putting Jacksonville on the schedule? Probably no worse than Alabama... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 12:18am 1/15/21
- Watch out, Urbie, for the Revenge of the ND Nerds! [NT]
- Irishize - 8:32pm 1/14/21
- I thought he left Florida because his heart was literally broken...and then Ohio State because of a - TakethetrainKnute - 4:23pm 1/14/21
- Money can cure many an ill. Jacksonville sunshine beats Ohio.... [NT]
- whatsamataU - 9:04pm 1/14/21
- ND was Urb's dream job until it wasn't. He took his BG team on a campus tour once............ - ELP - 10:50pm 1/14/21
- A long long time ago.... [NT]
- whatsamataU - 9:08am 1/15/21
- He left Fla & OSU because of health. Now he goes into the pressure cooker of the NFL? [NT]
- ELP - 12:48pm 1/15/21
- You don’t know what was negotiated in that pressure cooker. BIG BUCKS I’m sure which will relieve - whatsamataU - 4:21pm 1/16/21
- Easier to conceal thuggery in the pros - ndunabomber - 11:52am 1/16/21
- They didn't have to go to class at Ohio State or Florida either - IrishChristopher - 4:55pm 1/16/21
- He left Fla & OSU because of health. Now he goes into the pressure cooker of the NFL? [NT]
- ELP - 12:48pm 1/15/21
- A long long time ago.... [NT]
- whatsamataU - 9:08am 1/15/21
- ND was Urb's dream job until it wasn't. He took his BG team on a campus tour once............ - ELP - 10:50pm 1/14/21
- Money can cure many an ill. Jacksonville sunshine beats Ohio.... [NT]
- whatsamataU - 9:04pm 1/14/21
- Urban “played” Notre Dame to grease a bigger Florida contract. - conorlarkin - 8:36pm 1/16/21